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Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by madeofpalk »

gizajob wrote: post #96
madeofpalk wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like all things Apple, iPad is great if you only use it for the exact, limited use cases it was designed for. The moment you start to be beyond that slightly it completely falls apart. Contrast it to a more general computer running macOS or Windows, which does a poorer job at what iPad does best, but it has a much longer tail where the complexity ramps up linearly, compared to the hockey stick of iOS.

At the same time though, limited tools can lead to creativity. I know we're in the company of coders with complex workflows, but using and understanding a limited tool well to the point where you can max it out can be better than living with a "long tail" of untapped power and productivity. Strange though, how the iPad is ostensibly a much better device given the touchscreen and keyboard (and now pencil) and yet rema…

You think that Jason Snell, completely sold into the iPad-only lifestyle for many years, who records and edits podcasts on his iPad, is limited by his perception of iPad's ability?

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by fudged71 »

What if Apple released a device that was an M2/M3 MacBook, but the back side of the screen was another screen?

I didn’t used to believe this was likely, but now we have the Vision Pro which has an internal and external screen. A combo laptop/tablet would be incredible, and they use the same chip so why not?

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by nomel »

zeven7 wrote: post #139
nomel wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is this in reference to? I have an iPad and a MacBook. I don't pay a subscription. I usually use Microsoft OneDrive, so I can sync between/to my non apple devices, though I usually just use airdrop. Are you referring to extra cloud storage? edit: A response would be appreciated, so I can understand what's going on with this comment. This is a genuine question. What subscription am I missing out on here?

I haven't owned an Apple device in 10 years, but I think they're talking about iCloud.

I don't understand. There's no iCloud subscription to enable all the cross-device interoperability.

The cloud subscription just gets you more than the 5Gb of free storage. I use Microsoft OneDrive for extra cloud storage. Handoff, shared clipboard, airdrop, sidecar, and all the other nice stuff works without extra cloud storage. You do need to have an iCloud account.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by linster »

madeofpalk wrote: post #141
gizajob wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the same time though, limited tools can lead to creativity. I know we're in the company of coders with complex workflows, but using and understanding a limited tool well to the point where you can max it out can be better than living with a "long tail" of untapped power and productivity. Strange though, how the iPad is ostensibly a much better device given the touchscreen and keyboard (and now pencil) and yet rema…

You think that Jason Snell, completely sold into the iPad-only lifestyle for many years, who records and edits podcasts on his iPad, is limited by his perception of iPad's ability?

This is rage farming. Parent post says using a limited tool well is fine, can lead to good results.

“The best camera is the one you have with you” is common photography advice

Whether or not the author is limited by his perception of iPad’s ability is needless hair-splitting.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by tiffanyh »

madeofpalk wrote: post #85
gizajob wrote: post #80

I wrote a 160,000 word book this year on an iPad Air with smart keyboard (I find how the pro keyboard doesn't fold all the way back to allow holding the iPad landscape too big of an annoyance to buy one). I think it's a brilliant device, and while limited, does do some things better than the Mac - annotating PDFs and ebooks with the Pencil being one of them. Also nice to hold a document one is working on in landscape…

Like all things Apple, iPad is great if you only use it for the exact, limited use cases it was designed for. The moment you start to be beyond that slightly it completely falls apart. Contrast it to a more general computer running macOS or Windows, which does a poorer job at what iPad does best, but it has a much longer tail where the complexity ramps up linearly, compared to the hockey stick of iOS.

> ”Like all things Apple, iPad is great if you only use it for the exact, limited use cases it was designed for.”

That’s actually the definition of a product. To create something for specific use cases. That’s not an Apple problem/issue.

Sure, I could use my Toyota Camry (iPad) to haul lumber - but it’d make more sense to use a truck (MacBook) that was designed for those use cases.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by tmpX7dMeXU »

madeofpalk wrote: post #85
gizajob wrote: post #80

I wrote a 160,000 word book this year on an iPad Air with smart keyboard (I find how the pro keyboard doesn't fold all the way back to allow holding the iPad landscape too big of an annoyance to buy one). I think it's a brilliant device, and while limited, does do some things better than the Mac - annotating PDFs and ebooks with the Pencil being one of them. Also nice to hold a document one is working on in landscape…

Like all things Apple, iPad is great if you only use it for the exact, limited use cases it was designed for. The moment you start to be beyond that slightly it completely falls apart. Contrast it to a more general computer running macOS or Windows, which does a poorer job at what iPad does best, but it has a much longer tail where the complexity ramps up linearly, compared to the hockey stick of iOS.

> Like all things Apple …

> … computer running macOS …

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by gtvwill »

nomel wrote: post #130
gtvwill wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well if they were really for productivity they would have made all their software offerings over the last 20 years cross platform in order to allow users of other systems to feel such amazing productivity boosts. But they didnt, they walled it off and made mac's about as incompatible and hard to work with for any other device (android,windows,linux) as they possibly could. Proof in case, I can plug an android phone i…

As a person that always had, and still has, PCs, and also now has MacBooks, I'm suspecting that I use my devices in a significantly different way than you do. > made all their software offerings over the last 20 What Apple software would people want outside of the Apple ecosystem? Do you have an example? Most of the "niceness" is system wide/cross device integration related, many of which don't have an equivalent in…

I mean, what kind of OS company would want to build software for another companies competing os???

...

https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/microsoft-corporation/id...

:)

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by 121789 »

MassiveBonk51 wrote: post #140

I'll was planning trying this out in a couple weeks. Should I bring my macbook with me as well? I don't know how much I'd actually want to code which seems like the biggest reason to bring it with me.

I just tried to go with the only iPad Pro for travel option (I really wanted this to work), but had to return it and go back to my MacBook Air. The iPad is just not as good at many basic productivity workflows. Really basic stuff like switching between google sheets and chrome is just really high friction. It’s an amazing consumption device but I just couldn’t get it to work for me

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by jll29 »

The key sentence here is:

> This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done).

Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are.

Whenever I am waiting at airports, I have to grin at how much stuff people are carrying nowadays: it's not 2, it's 3 full-blown computing devices. First there was the mobile phone (which then just a device to call), then came the laptop, then the mobile phone became a computer with the iPhone and Android, and finally, the iPad appeared to fill a middle position. You'd think depending on the person, they'd travel with EITHER their phone OR their iPad OR their laptop, depending on whether they are private people, non-technical "creatives" or IT/technical/dev folks, but instead, everybody appears to be travelling with ALL THREE devices instead. That's because - as stated in the article - there are known limit, or people are worried that they may need all devices for particular use cases or data kept on them.

At least - thanks to the EU - soon they can all share the same USB-C charger.

I tried working with an iPad (and later iPad Pro) but eventually got back to a Ubuntu Linux laptop (ThinkPad X1 Nano), which at 970 grams is also lighter than my iPad Pro 10".

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by nomel »

gtvwill wrote: post #147
nomel wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a person that always had, and still has, PCs, and also now has MacBooks, I'm suspecting that I use my devices in a significantly different way than you do. > made all their software offerings over the last 20 What Apple software would people want outside of the Apple ecosystem? Do you have an example? Most of the "niceness" is system wide/cross device integration related, many of which don't have an equivalent in…

I mean, what kind of OS company would want to build software for another companies competing os??? ... https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/microsoft-corporation/id... :)

I asked some specific questions so I could have a meaningful conversation. It doesn't look like you're interested. Cheers!
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