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But once he/she has a family (or just a pregnant partner) he/she is really handcuffed to the job by that perk, no? The risk of losing that cover makes it very difficult to make sensible life choices.

Is your claim that a Facebook engineer would have trouble finding a different job with high compensation and great healthcare? That's a bold and hard to believe claim.

This comes across as quite rude, TBH.

But answering you on the merits: it’s entirely possible, yes.

For example, what if sensible life choices include moving out of state to a place where there is less tech industry? Just changing jobs can interrupt healthcare and cause costs. And the process of switching providers is, in the experience of a friend with a family with complex healthcare needs, sometimes so kafkaesque it might not be worth the risk.

What if sensible life choices involve blowing the whistle or just being critical of the industry? Can you risk it?

What if sensible life choices mean wanting to substitute time so your partner can go back to work? Does their plan match yours for the benefits you’ve both come to rely on?

It’s not unusual at all for people in all sorts of situations and on all sorts of incomes to effectively end up tied to a job by the security of specific features of a workplace health plan.

Use your imagination before you just jump in and belittle an argument.

I do wonder if people in the particular FAANG bubbles are just too young and healthy to understand that healthcare plans aren’t just a tradeable, interchangeable perk: once you are really deeply using them, they can get a lot less interchangeable.

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As much as I like the NHS, it’s pretty shit compared to the healthcare a Facebook employee would get in the US. Wait weeks to see a GP, long waiting times to see a specialist or for treatment, rationing of access to technology like MRIs, and a risk of dying in a hospital car park or corridor, or being killed by an overworked A&E doctor. Don’t get me wrong, the NHS is great, I love that Boris Johnson got more or less…

The one case where your argument fails is very serious illnesses where you can't continue to work. In the US you will end up with worse care. And let's hope the NHS problems are temporary. When I worked in London and the US ten years ago, I always preferred the NHS because the waiting times were shorter and the quality of care was much higher. I used the NHS a few weeks ago. It wasn't horrible and I got good quality…

> ...very serious illnesses where you can't continue to work.

In the US, if possible, carry long term disability insurance to mitigate this risk.

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The UK has a long intellectual tradition which creates a steady stream of creative and capable engineers. Capital however is predominately held via inherited wealth and its controllers want rentier incomes with low risk. As a consequence there is low appetite for risky new ventures and those that want to undertake them mostly migrate elsewhere. What's left is a stock market dominated by octogenarian+ dianosaurs, a de…

> want rentier incomes with low risk. I don't know if I buy your point about inherited wealth but there is what I'd describe as a stifling culture of rentseeking that, if not actively encouraged is certainly tolerated and overlooked, at many levels of society, and across both businesses and public organisations. And once you become aware of it you start to realise how obnoxious and oppressive it is. We certainly don'…

Excellent comments both yours and the one you replied to. Once you see it you really can’t unsee it.

The UK is a marvel that it manages to cultivate such an incredible creative scene in the shadow of the rent seeking mediocrity.

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Thatcher was replaced by a guy called Blair who saw the internet as the future worth investing in. Sadly he found another cause to throw money at. The mistake Thatcher made was to open up the telecoms market to competition at a time when the legacy provider (BT) were starting to build a high speed internet highway/backbone. In hindsight, this could indeed be considered an error but looking how BT have fared since, pe…

A lot more mistakes made by Thatcher than that. We're now in the absurd situation where 4 out of 6 power generating companies are foreign owned and the Japanese own our chip manufacturer. All because of her policies that originally envisioned that the share holding would be by the British public, not foreigners. And the latest scandal is that our water companies are dumping ridiculous amounts of sewage into our water…

We've had a few Prime Ministers since Thatcher, was her reach so powerful that she could prevent them from doing anything about this?

I recall Blair saying he regretted not doing enough about energy security when he was in power, I don't recall him blaming Thatcher?

Brown expands nuclear ambitions (2008): The prime minister said that with oil prices soaring, it was time to be "more ambitious" for nuclear plans... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7424158.stm

There has been a long history of failure, by both sides of the political spectrum.

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> Capital however is predominately held via inherited wealth Curious to see you prove that beyond an imagined stereotype. It's not as though we are in the first generation of US entrepreneurship and there is not a huge quantity of US inherited wealth in those VC funds. The founders of Intel, Apple, Walmart, Standard Oil etc. have all passed on. And on the other side, it's not like there haven't been a dozen generatio…

I cannot prove it, and this is entirely anecdotal, but my friends and I have observed it first-hand from VC dealings and friends in the right UK circles. Inherited generational wealth and class in my experience powers UK investment, particularly in the start-up scene, much more than in the USA. Of course, there are some exceptions I can think of in the UK but it is very much tied up with the class system there and un…

Absolutely. As others have alluded to: angels abound, but look at the pedigree of the associates and partners at VC funds based in London and it all falls into place. I assume it’s because it’s a relatively easy job that you don’t need much talent for. Perfect for an intelligent but bored dauphin.

Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering

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As much as I like the NHS, it’s pretty shit compared to the healthcare a Facebook employee would get in the US. Wait weeks to see a GP, long waiting times to see a specialist or for treatment, rationing of access to technology like MRIs, and a risk of dying in a hospital car park or corridor, or being killed by an overworked A&E doctor. Don’t get me wrong, the NHS is great, I love that Boris Johnson got more or less…

The one case where your argument fails is very serious illnesses where you can't continue to work. In the US you will end up with worse care. And let's hope the NHS problems are temporary. When I worked in London and the US ten years ago, I always preferred the NHS because the waiting times were shorter and the quality of care was much higher. I used the NHS a few weeks ago. It wasn't horrible and I got good quality…

> I would guess the NHS will change. Voters are unhappy with the reckless defunding of what used to be a national pride.

I am not sure that is the case? The country seems to have a weird obsession with the NHS and seems to downplay/overlook its problems. Frankly even before its recent woes, I found it pretty shit compared to socialized healthcare in France.

The current state of the NHS should prompt riots, yet everyone seems complacent in seeing their literal lifeline being destroyed by greedy, incompetent & senile oligarchs.

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Compared to the US. Dan Abramov who works for Facebook and is one of the primary engineers of the hugely popular React framework makes less than one of my junior engineers.

And when he gets sick gets free healthcare while your junior will go bankrupt. Compensation isn't comparable without comparing external costs and benefits.

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> Arm exists and is British, after all. Our current government is indifferent to this.

Not entirely indifferent - they did intervene on national-security grounds in 2021: https://news.sky.com/story/government-intervenes-in-sale-of-...

I had forgotten about this, to be honest, but national security grounds is either what it says on its face or "what is the smallest amount of intervention we can do here to satisfy all those critics talking about something we don't understand".

Our Prime Minister thought getting the Royal Mint to produce NFTs was a good idea. In 2022.

Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering

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The UK has a long intellectual tradition which creates a steady stream of creative and capable engineers. Capital however is predominately held via inherited wealth and its controllers want rentier incomes with low risk. As a consequence there is low appetite for risky new ventures and those that want to undertake them mostly migrate elsewhere. What's left is a stock market dominated by octogenarian+ dianosaurs, a de…

Canada has many similarities. The inherited wealth is essentially banks and oligarchs. You pretty much have to be risk free to get any funding. Lots of window dressing and marketing to make Canada look good. If it were not for US companies (Cisco, Google, etc) the Canadian tech salary would be closer to Europe. Once you start living here you realize the truth about how much they value tech, protectionism, the incompe…

Quebec has had a few wins over the years with massive indirect subsidies toward strategic industries, notably gaming and AI. Public money is spent to attract big players which hire a critical mass of talent which leads to more players moving in and eventually some private risk capital becoming available for startups pending to the needs of the big guys. Nothing comparable to the American VC system though.

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> which I'd categorise as being generally apathetical, if not hostile, to the engineering profession Any chance you could elaborate on this? Arm exists and is British, after all.

The UK has a long intellectual tradition which creates a steady stream of creative and capable engineers. Capital however is predominately held via inherited wealth and its controllers want rentier incomes with low risk. As a consequence there is low appetite for risky new ventures and those that want to undertake them mostly migrate elsewhere. What's left is a stock market dominated by octogenarian+ dianosaurs, a de…

Though even the rent-seekers ought to see some value in ARM.
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