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So when can I buy a cybertruck then?
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The more I see of Musk on Twitter the lower I judge his future impact at Tesla. Tesla going forward is going to have to grow its customer facing side and Musk seems unsuited to solving problems that involve humans and emotions. Could be completely wrong of course, often am. That said, I too divested myself 100%.
What confuses me is that Musk's behavior is abhorrent to the "typical" Tesla buyer.
You sure about that?
> Tesla owners are majority white. 87% of individuals who own the three Tesla models identify as Caucasian, 8% identify as Hispanic, and 5% represent all other ethnicities, according to Hedges and Company. Tesla drivers appear to have higher incomes.
Typically more money means you are less in touch with the surrounding world.
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Quick - name the CEO of Toyota. Can't do it? How about Volkswagen? Still no? These are the two largest car companies in the world. Honestly, I think Tesla would be better off if Musk were to go away - at this point. Musk really is the perennial entrepreneur. He's a great idea man, and he can get a company built and make that idea come to life. But he can't run a business. I think Musk has overstayed his welcome at Te…
Is there any evidence that Musk has overstayed his welcome based on any actual numbers. It seems the me the only evidence is that people now like him less, and somehow that now makes him bad at being CEO. Sorry, don't really see the connection.
I test drove a Tesla in early 2022, and was set to buy one. I am no longer interested in a Tesla in the slightest. The reason why is Elon Musk's behavior. Not a single person in my friend group wants a Tesla now.
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> Cybertruck is literally in production. The idea that its 'not real' is some conspiracy theory nonsense. It's not real. You can't buy it, it has no credible deadline for shipping. > GM has a market cap of $51.5B > Yes and have you considered why that is? Yes, the fundamentals of their business dictate this market valuation. Unlike Tesla where the price is dictated by Elon's pumping (and occasional dumping).
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Are the trucks in peoples possession? I think that is what OP is getting at. As a buyer who needs a car, do I know when one will show up to my door? That is literally what matters.
Apple Vision Pro "exists", but that's worthless until its in customers hands.
Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla
#145Given the animosity Elon Musk has displayed towards former and current Xitter employees, it should surprise us more that people keep working with him. People leaving him is not surprising. Deciding to work with him is surprising.
Serious question - not trying to be cute or funny - is Xitter pronounced like "sitter", "ksitter", or "shitter"?
Just realized i've been pronouncing it zitter in my head this whole time.
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Are the trucks in peoples possession? I think that is what OP is getting at. As a buyer who needs a car, do I know when one will show up to my door? That is literally what matters. Apple Vision Pro "exists", but that's worthless until its in customers hands.
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Is there any evidence that Musk has overstayed his welcome based on any actual numbers. It seems the me the only evidence is that people now like him less, and somehow that now makes him bad at being CEO. Sorry, don't really see the connection.
I test drove a Tesla in early 2022, and was set to buy one. I am no longer interested in a Tesla in the slightest. The reason why is Elon Musk's behavior. Not a single person in my friend group wants a Tesla now.
So anecdotal evidence based on your personal friend group and no actual data about sales or demand?
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I test drove a Tesla in early 2022, and was set to buy one. I am no longer interested in a Tesla in the slightest. The reason why is Elon Musk's behavior. Not a single person in my friend group wants a Tesla now.
So anecdotal evidence based on your personal friend group and no actual data about sales or demand?
Yes. It’s obviously anecdotal evidence. There has never been another time in my life where I was about to pull the trigger on $40k and walked it back. We aren’t talking about not buying bud light or Nike shoes here. A lost car sale to a competitor over unnecessary behavior from a CEO is absolutely wild. It has the potential of working out for Tesla if they pull in more Conservative Buyers… but the boys back in my rural hometown aren’t interested in a Cybertruck over a Ford (this is more anecdotal evidence).
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How much of Tesla do you think is Musk? For example, if Zuck choked Musk to death in a cage fight, what do you think would happen to the stock? Obviously the odds of this happening are close to 0 but after investing heavily in Tesla I came to the conclusion (perhaps wrongly) that a good deal of the value in tesla stock is tied to Musk. He could get hit by a bus tomorrow. So I sold and put it all in an index fund that…
Quick - name the CEO of Toyota. Can't do it? How about Volkswagen? Still no? These are the two largest car companies in the world. Honestly, I think Tesla would be better off if Musk were to go away - at this point. Musk really is the perennial entrepreneur. He's a great idea man, and he can get a company built and make that idea come to life. But he can't run a business. I think Musk has overstayed his welcome at Te…
Isn't the CEO of Nissan some Brazilian guy who escaped jail in Japan? Honestly, besides Tesla, Nissan is the only other company I can think of, and he is the ex-CEO, but almost as interesting (notorious?) as Musk so we actually remember who he is.
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Is there any evidence that Musk has overstayed his welcome based on any actual numbers. It seems the me the only evidence is that people now like him less, and somehow that now makes him bad at being CEO. Sorry, don't really see the connection.
I test drove a Tesla in early 2022, and was set to buy one. I am no longer interested in a Tesla in the slightest. The reason why is Elon Musk's behavior. Not a single person in my friend group wants a Tesla now.
It feels weird not to drive a car because you don't like the CEO. Maybe that's just me though. Usually scummy CEOs lead obviously scummy companies (think Oracle), and I wouldn't want their products at all. Musk defies that: he is questionable in personality and ethics but SpaceX/Tesla are honestly great companies with good products.