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My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by esafak »

withinboredom wrote: post #73
wongarsu wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RDS is very expensive. Just following the console's advise for production instances (meaning Multi-AZ with a Proxy), a t3-medium (2 vCPU, 4GB) Postgres instance with 5GB storage is $130/month. You can get it down to $12/month by going with a t4g.micro (2 vCPU, 1GB RAM), single-az, no proxy, no backups, 5GB storage; with price after that scaling roughly linearly with RAM. But the interface will scream at you the entir…

Or just rent a bare-metal server with 32 real cpus and 128gb of ram for <100 bucks a month... My bare metal k8s cluster running on rented bare-metal costs <300 a month and I have hundreds of cores and hundreds of gb of ram available.

Where do you get servers in the US at that price?

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by valbaca »

edfletcher_t137 wrote: post #92

Given that a large portion of this spend is currently covered by expiring (in less-than-a-year) one-time credits, it's really not representative of what it claims to be and is therefore quite disingenuous & misleading.

Agreed. Nearly every item is actually “per month (for the next 12ish months)”

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by esafak »

aantix wrote: post #130

AppSignal is an incredible value and might consolidate your need for the individual offerings. It handles logging, exception handling, performance monitoring, and anomaly detection. Starting at $20/month. https://www.appsignal.com/

"...for Ruby, Elixir & Node.js"

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by nicbou »

nwoli wrote: post #32

I can’t imagine Intercom is worth like 1/3 of the budget. I’ve never used one of those AI pop ups and have always felt them annoying

Are we the only ones? Do our users think differently? I have wrongly assumed that my users think like me before. Is there any research showing how Intercom is received by users?

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by nicbou »

jmduke wrote: post #38

Love this! I published a similar one last month: https://buttondown.email/stack --- A couple notes on where I differ/concur from OP: 1. ahrefs is absolutely worth its price in gold. 2. IMHO intercom is overpriced relative to competitors depending on how you use it, with the caveat that I hate in-app messaging widgets and consider them a blight on the modern web. (HelpScout is my preferred app.) 3. I deeply miss my Fr…

What do you gain from Ahrefs? I know what it does, and have a free account there, but I don't actually use it.

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by willsmith72 »

withinboredom wrote: post #73
wongarsu wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RDS is very expensive. Just following the console's advise for production instances (meaning Multi-AZ with a Proxy), a t3-medium (2 vCPU, 4GB) Postgres instance with 5GB storage is $130/month. You can get it down to $12/month by going with a t4g.micro (2 vCPU, 1GB RAM), single-az, no proxy, no backups, 5GB storage; with price after that scaling roughly linearly with RAM. But the interface will scream at you the entir…

Or just rent a bare-metal server with 32 real cpus and 128gb of ram for <100 bucks a month... My bare metal k8s cluster running on rented bare-metal costs <300 a month and I have hundreds of cores and hundreds of gb of ram available.

Yeah and maintain and monitor it yourself when you could be building the product

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by withinboredom »

willsmith72 wrote: post #147
withinboredom wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just rent a bare-metal server with 32 real cpus and 128gb of ram for <100 bucks a month... My bare metal k8s cluster running on rented bare-metal costs <300 a month and I have hundreds of cores and hundreds of gb of ram available.

Yeah and maintain and monitor it yourself when you could be building the product

Is it really that hard to install netdata? It's a single command.

It is really no different than managing VPS's, in all honesty (just less expensive and tangible). I spend less than one hour a week doing updates and routine maintenance. Drive failures happen rarely, and can usually be swapped out within a few hours (this is what RAID is for).

More time is spent dealing with k8s and it's shenanigans than dealing with the actual servers.

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by withinboredom »

esafak wrote: post #141
withinboredom wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just rent a bare-metal server with 32 real cpus and 128gb of ram for <100 bucks a month... My bare metal k8s cluster running on rented bare-metal costs <300 a month and I have hundreds of cores and hundreds of gb of ram available.

Where do you get servers in the US at that price?

OVH has them in North America. You can get 32 threads (16 cores) and 32 gb of ram for 100 euro a month (120ish USD).

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by zeeg »

sakopov wrote: post #119

> I use AWS EC2 for Waitlist's backend python webserver, RDS for the postgres database, S3 for file storage, and an Elastic IP Honestly, if you're using AWS for VPS, S3 and RDS you're better off on something like DigitalOcean or no cloud at all. Also, I don't understand using SendGrid and Sentry when you're already on AWS and have SES and CloudWatch. You could even connect CloudWatch with PagerDuty via alarms and mil…

Genuine question, have you used Sentry? Cloudwatch provides very, very different capabilities.
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