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1. Build a pipeline with macOS in mind (because "All engineers I know have Macs") 2. Complain when the macOS-oriented process doesn't work for everyone.
I work on a split team, Windows and macOS. We do straightforward Java work and most of the problems that we have are related to installing command-line software on Windows. Installing Postgres, Redis, etc. on Windows is wildly complicated compared to on macOS or Linux.
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If they are arguing that, don’t you think their anecdotal “proof” is silly? > I would never buy an Apple laptop and no one I know has one either . >no one I know with a work laptop is supplied a Mac either. I don’t know anyone that uses WeChat. Wouldn’t that be a silly argument?
Not if the anecdote contradicts an equally unsubstantiated generalisation, honestly. If you're going to complain about the quality of the discussion, do it with both sides, not just the argument you side against.
And the first link is
https://www.patentlyapple.com/2023/02/apple-currently-owns-9...
It would be much more substantial than anecdotal what his friends and coworkers do.
It’s about as bad as the old Slashdot “do people still watch TV? I haven’t own a TV in 10 years”
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Sorry, but you've just noticed it? Wars about semantics have been standard fare on geekdom since the dawn of time, and on Hacker News since the dawn of Arc. What appears as "Obnoxious Contrarian wilderness" is good-old hacker "well, actually" pendanticness (with some sprinkling of on-the-spectrum focus on details and semantics).
> Sorry, but you've just noticed it? Yes, I have noticed “an increase in arguing over the meaning of words on HN lately”. I also know how to discuss the meaning of words and how they form the context of a conversation, once taken together. > Wars about semantics have been standard fare on geekdom since the dawn of time, and on Hacker News since the dawn of Arc. Sure, and I enjoy very much some pedantry (and am not ab…
I'm sorry, then! (Was I tho? I thought I answered mostly matter-of-factly)
Why do these kinds of articles essentially refuse to admit RISC-V exists?
But worry not, RISC-V is inevitable.
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Not if the anecdote contradicts an equally unsubstantiated generalisation, honestly. If you're going to complain about the quality of the discussion, do it with both sides, not just the argument you side against.
Well, it’s really not that hard to search on Google for “percent of laptops running ARM” and find something slightly less silly than “no one I know owns a MacBook nor does anyone I work with” And the first link is https://www.patentlyapple.com/2023/02/apple-currently-owns-9... It would be much more substantial than anecdotal what his friends and coworkers do. It’s about as bad as the old Slashdot “do people still wat…
If you want to read a non-silly thread, I suggest looking for a non-silly opener, this website has more than average of those.
Why do these kinds of articles essentially refuse to admit RISC-V exists?
Cloud world is really slow. Imagine writing about Zen3 Milan in Aug 2023 when AMD has already announced Zen4c Bergamo. Actually we were "ahead of the curve" since we got access to T2D before it was made publicly available in Tokyo region, and even then it took several months to get enough capacity in Tokyo to fully migrate our production Kubernetes cluster. I really wish we could test out RISC-V SoCs from the likes o…
AWS has Zen 4 in preview. Azure and Oracle have Zen 4 available. It's only Google cloud that's been behind this release. The cloud world isn't slow.
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Yep. I work in an entire office of engineers with only Macs (mostly ARM ones now) and I only have a Mac at home, besides a very old ThinkPad running Ubuntu. (Aside from FFXIV on MacOS, I've moved any gaming to PS5 and Switch.) I haven't actively used Windows since 2008. It's such an obnoxious OS to use, and I have never seen a Windows laptop with quality in the same zip code as a Mac. There's always a terrible touch…
> I haven't actively used Windows since 2008. It's such an obnoxious OS to use You might want to modernize your perception of it, holding on to 15 year old views is not a very smart move in the tech industry. Windows 10 and 11 are a joy to use, and to develop. I used a Mac for 15 years and switched to Windows to develop 5 years ago, and now macOS looks extremely antiquated and creaky for development.
The windows UI itself is an unpolished joke that's a hodgepodge of things that haven't been touched since Windows XP and half-baked new things, with sad window management (ironic) that lacks the perfection of Exposé and Spaces. To say nothing about laptop battery life, plugging in and removing multiple monitors several times a day.
I would strongly consider not working somewhere if they didn't use Macs
When I think about how long chips like the 6502 have still been in active use (almost 50 years now), it is hard to conceive of a world where there isn't a significant presence of x86 activity for the rest of my life. The majority of 'the market' may go elsewhere, but for a gazillion reasons, x86 will not be disappearing for quite a while. At this point it would honestly surprise me if we didn't at least have high qua…
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ARM has a lot more market share in people's minds than in actual numbers. One research firm says that ARM has 15% of the laptop market share in 2023, expected to increase to 25% by 2027. (Surprisingly, Apple only has 90% of the ARM laptop market.) In the server market, just an estimated 8% of CPU shipments in 2023 were ARM. https://www.counterpointresearch.com/arm-based-pcs-to-nearly... https://www.digitimes.com/news…
I keep meaning to research this, and maybe this isn't the right place, but how are things going for Linux executables? Last I tried Linux on ARM it seemed like application-level support for ARM was very spotty. It doesn't seem like a Rosetta 2-like effort is making it into mainline Linux anytime soon, if ever.
As a separate data point, I briefly switched one of our servers from an r6a.4xlarge (AMD Epyc) to a r6i.4xlarge (Intel Xeon) and saw a 30% speedup in our number-heavy compute task. I would love to find out why (MKL or AVX512? Do I need to recompile numpy?), but for the time being it pays to stay on Xeon. We eventually switched to m-instances since that fits our compute/memory usage better when we’re at limits.