I’ve used Arc as my main browser on my work laptop for the last few months and I love it! It solves pain points I’ve actively tried to solve with Firefox, but couldn’t. It’s no surprise HN is skeptical about « yet another browser », so here’s what I like specifically about Arc: - it supports tab tiling. I can see 2 tabs next to one another easily. This is NOT solved with window tiling, it’s clunky and clutters the sp…
Why would you want your browser to manage themes and window management (tiling, links outside of web) while it is the job of the OS/desktop environment?
From https://www.protocol.com/browser-company > Agrawal decided early on not to try and rebuild the whole browser stack, and based Arc on Chromium like everyone else. Ladybird this ain't. More like YACI (yet another chromium implementation).
Seriously the fact the "I made a chrome wrapper" is apparently worth millions in VC funding remains absurd to me.
Lots of things are built on FOSS components. How many appliances are built on nix-with-an-app? Are they just wrappers? What about Linux distros themselves, or all nix flavors and distros?
The value, in this case, is in the UI. The engine is a commodity.
The best way to learn about a browser is to use it. No article is going to convey whether it will feel right to you. If needing an account is a dealbreaker, the consider the deal broken and move on. I've tried out a bunch of browsers over the past year, and Arc has been my default for a few months now. Being able to easily swipe between sandboxed profiles is great, and I like the rest of the UI. They also have a YouT…
So what we are supposed to shut up and move on ? Not criticize that : - "won´t ever sell your data" is an empty promise - "We never sell your data, and we’ll only share it in the following circumstances: With our Service Providers" O yeah they don't sell just share ... (with a list of what a Service provider may be but not what it may not be). - "Why do we collect personal data? Protect against fraud" strange would h…
> So what we are supposed to shut up and move on ?
Only if you have better things to do. I've personally cleared my day to work on a "CharlesW DESTROYS Arc Browser SaaS Model for 43 Minutes" YouTube response.
The best way to learn about a browser is to use it. No article is going to convey whether it will feel right to you. If needing an account is a dealbreaker, the consider the deal broken and move on. I've tried out a bunch of browsers over the past year, and Arc has been my default for a few months now. Being able to easily swipe between sandboxed profiles is great, and I like the rest of the UI. They also have a YouT…
So what we are supposed to shut up and move on ? Not criticize that : - "won´t ever sell your data" is an empty promise - "We never sell your data, and we’ll only share it in the following circumstances: With our Service Providers" O yeah they don't sell just share ... (with a list of what a Service provider may be but not what it may not be). - "Why do we collect personal data? Protect against fraud" strange would h…
> "won´t ever sell your data" is an empty promise
Especially if they don't mention who do they milk money from. You'd have to be very naive to install this.
I’ve used Arc as my main browser on my work laptop for the last few months and I love it! It solves pain points I’ve actively tried to solve with Firefox, but couldn’t. It’s no surprise HN is skeptical about « yet another browser », so here’s what I like specifically about Arc: - it supports tab tiling. I can see 2 tabs next to one another easily. This is NOT solved with window tiling, it’s clunky and clutters the sp…
Why would you want your browser to manage themes and window management (tiling, links outside of web) while it is the job of the OS/desktop environment?
Doesn't that argument apply to tabs also? Eg IE6 days where there were no tabs, and everything was deferred to the OS/desktop window management. It was clunky and painful.
The best way to learn about a browser is to use it. No article is going to convey whether it will feel right to you. If needing an account is a dealbreaker, the consider the deal broken and move on. I've tried out a bunch of browsers over the past year, and Arc has been my default for a few months now. Being able to easily swipe between sandboxed profiles is great, and I like the rest of the UI. They also have a YouT…
So what we are supposed to shut up and move on ? Not criticize that : - "won´t ever sell your data" is an empty promise - "We never sell your data, and we’ll only share it in the following circumstances: With our Service Providers" O yeah they don't sell just share ... (with a list of what a Service provider may be but not what it may not be). - "Why do we collect personal data? Protect against fraud" strange would h…
I just mean that some people will value things like being able to sync their browser sidebar, and won't be bothered by needing an account to do so, and some people will never do that. If you're of the latter sort, then Arc isn't for you.
Seriously the fact the "I made a chrome wrapper" is apparently worth millions in VC funding remains absurd to me.
Why do people care so much about the rendering engine? They are also basically the same for most websites people actually care about, the important part is the UI. That being said I’d strongly prefer the native WebKit be used since it wouldn’t make the thing 300mb.
I'd say at this point the most important part is "correctness" (rendering etc) and security
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I was interested I trying it out, downloaded it, run. It started with odd animation and then prompted me to sign up. The rationale was to "sync" (not interested) and bug reports (can submit data while doing it).
It feels worse than chrome while being obnoxious about supposedly being "groundbreaking"...
So what we are supposed to shut up and move on ? Not criticize that : - "won´t ever sell your data" is an empty promise - "We never sell your data, and we’ll only share it in the following circumstances: With our Service Providers" O yeah they don't sell just share ... (with a list of what a Service provider may be but not what it may not be). - "Why do we collect personal data? Protect against fraud" strange would h…
> So what we are supposed to shut up and move on ? Only if you have better things to do. I've personally cleared my day to work on a "CharlesW DESTROYS Arc Browser SaaS Model for 43 Minutes" YouTube response.
Well I certainly come to HN because some people take the time to criticize.
Share the link when you are finished with your video it might interest me since with a quick perusal of the website I couldn't find anything on their SaaS model.