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Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by greatgib »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #52
greatgib wrote: post #7

My opinion based on feature and screenshots is that the UX is as shitty as Jira. The nightmare with Jira is this product manager obsession with kaban boards that become overwhelmed once your project become serious.

What's the solution to this? Which app would you recommend to deal with projects that become serious?

Honestly, the best experience I had so far was with Redmine.

It can look a little bit rough, and sure there could be lot of improvement. But it favored efficiency against eye candy design.

It is very easy to have things organized the old way. Having projects, recursive sub-projects.

You can look at your issues at the sub sub project level or at a more global level.

You can easily have list with all the variable that matters. That you can order easily how you need: Who's the rapporter? Who's the dev? Who's assigned to? What is the state? When was the issue discovered? In which version? Fixed with which milestone?

It is very slick, I did not feel a latency like in Jira, the screen is not filled with useless crux, only what matters fills the screen. In a few clicks I was always able to find what I was looking for, set and identify all the affected versions and which one got the fixes.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by trnl »

aaryan610 wrote: post #111
CharlesW wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Aaryan, I just signed up and am taking the tour, and the body copy (#737373 on #070707) is effectively unreadable while sitting outside with my MacBook Air at max brightness. (Hacker News remains easy to read in the same scenario.) For accessibility's sake, it'd be nice if the site met WCAG Level AAA contrast ratio requirements.

Thanks for your feedback. Rest assured that we will carefully consider it and work towards enhancing our color schemes accordingly.

X CD

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by TheNewsIsHere »

paledot wrote: post #135
TheNewsIsHere wrote: post #93

As someone who typically rejects/hard-passes on products with the SSO tax (sometimes even when there’s budget/will to go with the SSO-included tier), I really appreciate the lack of the SSO tax here. The era for security and in particular identity and auth management to be pay-to-play is long over and I appreciate when projects and businesses are honest about that.

I disagree. SSO is something that big companies care about and early-stage startups and hobbyists don't. It's a super easy gate to generate revenue from the people who can afford to pay (and mindshare from the people who can't). You seem to be advocating for SSO for personal use too, to which I say: hell no. I don't even use the same email address between different sites. Why should I give every site I log in to a fr…

I understand the business logic of why we have the SSO tax. I simply think it’s greedy and misguided in the modern era.

I was speaking primarily from a business perspective, in particular one where I make technical decisions for mine and other (client) businesses.

Experience has taught me that SMBs benefit greatly from SSO. They’re also simply the least likely to have the talent around to implement it well and reliably. So while you can use the SSO tax to drive revenue, you’re just moving the burden of account management to individual users and admins of small teams. As a long-time provider to small teams I can tell you how much they really hate dealing with that overhead when they probably already have a SAML and/or OIDC IdP service included with their MS365 or Google Workspace tenant.

So as a result, I select away from those offerings if there are comparable alternatives, and there almost always are.

I am not advocating for the use of social IdP (“Sign in with [Apple|Microsoft|Google|etc]”) for anything. I really dislike those as well, to the point that I actively select against services that only support signing in with a third party that I can’t control. I was specifically talking about SSO as it’s traditionally interpreted: SAML, OIDC, LDAP, etc that you control.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by TheNewsIsHere »

viewtransform wrote: post #118
TheNewsIsHere wrote: post #93

As someone who typically rejects/hard-passes on products with the SSO tax (sometimes even when there’s budget/will to go with the SSO-included tier), I really appreciate the lack of the SSO tax here. The era for security and in particular identity and auth management to be pay-to-play is long over and I appreciate when projects and businesses are honest about that.

SSO = Single sign-on "SSO refers to a SaaS or similar vendor allowing a business client to manage user accounts via the client’s own identity provider, without having to rely on the vendor to provide strong authentication with audit logs, and with the ability to create and delete user accounts centrally, for all users, across all software in use by that client."

Normally you would expect any SSO capable application to keep its own auth logs.

It’s certainly not a SaaS-centric thing. SSO has been around once before we used it widely with HTTP.

I would also argue that the last part conflates SSO and SCIM. Usually these are kept as distinct features, even if compatible.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by wkat4242 »

ResearchCode wrote: post #78
wkat4242 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the problem is more that 'agile' is now a buzzword and companies try to apply it to lots of things where it doesn't really work. In our company our CIO declared everything should be agile. So now we log our hours in Jira. That's it :P supposedly that makes us agile or something.

That sounds like micromanagement. Are you a contractor?

Nope I'm not, I'm in in-house IT.

But yeah the VP they acquired from another company to manage us is a total tool.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by [deleted] »

stavros wrote: post #25
dspillett wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> cannot be ever closed source Cannot be closed source unless the maintainer dual licenses and stops making OS (assuming a single maintainer or group that all agree, or that other contributors have signed a relevant copyright waiver). (though what has already been released can't be retracted)

> (though what has already been released can't be retracted) This is the only relevant bit. A license can't force people to do work for free in the future.

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Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by dspillett »

remram wrote: post #131
dspillett wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> cannot be ever closed source Cannot be closed source unless the maintainer dual licenses and stops making OS (assuming a single maintainer or group that all agree, or that other contributors have signed a relevant copyright waiver). (though what has already been released can't be retracted)

Not the maintainer, all the copyright holders. If you accept contributions without a CLA, that closes that avenue. I couldn't find any outside contribution in the repo yet, we'll see how they go.

Hence all my bits in brackets…

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Post by wink »

lelanthran wrote: post #26
tacone wrote: post #13

Thank you for posting this. Looks pretty basic but somehow complete. The first impression is good. Here's some criticism: The first thing I look for in a issue tracker is the screen estate to write the task. I understand that some people write a list of issues in the form of short blurbs and iterate on them afterwards, but it always feels frustrating to me to having to write the title in a modal window, save and then…

> On my computer it started in Dark Mode, and the experience overall was quite a bit disorientating. Also no light/mode switch icon in the header. I don't really know that you need a light/dark mode switch. It should follow your preferences. I see dark mode websites all the time, because my desktop is set to dark mode. On my Windows machine I see the same websites with the light-mode, because I did not bother to figu…

Yes of course you need one, the detection is what I can call flaky at best (talking about the websites I visit, not that the tech doesn't exist) and also I know many people who only run a good chunk of websites on their actual preference, and others on the other version, I'm one of them, I only use dark mode in about 1/3 of websites where I know about the two modes.

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Post by dbbk »

IshKebab wrote: post #114
berkes wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This bothers me on almost all project management software. What I'd love to see, is to be able to assign one person as the one "responsible" and then assign others ad-hoc when/if they work on-, review-, discuss, or co-author it. Some software allows multiple assignees, but as the ancient management-saying goes: if everyone is responsible, no-one is. So i'd still love to have one person assigned with a special role or…

Yeah this is an issue with my current company's use of Jira. They're super worried about tickets being "lost" so they all have to be assigned to one person, but then that means you can't tell who is actually working on something. My previous company used Phabricator and you only assigned yourself a task when you actually started working on it. It meant anyone could work on anything - much more agile and much much bet…

You can create a custom multi-person field and call it whatever you want.
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