141–150 of 160 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
And that makes it OK how?
I noted in my original answer that "this does not absolve them of...responsibility". Some of the comments were implying that Apple didn't give credit because they have a culture that is insolent. I was just trying to give context to the decision.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. Apple isn't known for sweating the small stuff. Accident my ass! Incompetence, at best. If this was Microsoft or Oracle, not Apple, HN would be grabbing their pitchforks in three seconds.
If this was any other company not a single article would have been written about it in the first place.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
If this was any other company not a single article would have been written about it in the first place.
Provably false: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/microsoft-adds-openst...
An exaggeration on my part perhaps but when you compare the number of articles written about this compared to the Google contractors that intentionally sabotaged OSM data the difference is staggering.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. Apple isn't known for sweating the small stuff. Accident my ass! Incompetence, at best. If this was Microsoft or Oracle, not Apple, HN would be grabbing their pitchforks in three seconds.
If this was any other company not a single article would have been written about it in the first place.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
If Steve Jobs were still alive, he'd probably be pledging to deplete every last dollar of Apple's billions to run this stolen product into the ground. Who does OpenStreetMap think they are, anyway? ;)
After making this comment I've come back to my 'comments' page from time to time and watched its karma value gyrate between positive and negative. Do the down-mods represent people operating in good faith thinking I'm being mean-spirited, rude, and damaging the conversation? Or are they Apple fanboys upset by a little uncomfortable teasing at their expense? I can only speculate. :P
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Provably false: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/microsoft-adds-openst...
Expected an article about Microsoft not providing attribution to OSM but you didn't deliver. An exaggeration on my part perhaps but when you compare the number of articles written about this compared to the Google contractors that intentionally sabotaged OSM data the difference is staggering.
As for the Google contractors, I remember that being a big story (especially coming on the heels of the Kenya incident) until Google fired them and apologized.
Similarly, I'd expect interest in Apple's failure to credit OSM to go away once they fix it and apologize. Apple's use of OSM is interesting on its own terms, of course, so I doubt interest in that will die down anytime soon.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why wouldn't CC cover this?
OSM is a database of geographic facts ("There is a road here. It is called Main Street. It is a primary road." etc.) Copyright of databases is non-obvious, so they are switching to a click through database EULA thingie.
See Feist V. Rural
"The constitutional requirement necessitates independent creation plus a modicum of creativity. Since facts do not owe their origin to an act of authorship, they are not original, and thus are not copyrightable. Although a compilation of facts may possess the requisite originality because the author typically chooses which facts to include, in what order to place them, and how to arrange the data so that readers may use them effectively, copyright protection extends only to those components of the work that are original to the author, not to the facts themselves. This fact/expression dichotomy severely limits the scope of protection in fact-based works."
Whether or not the street data is copyrightable in light of this decision is definitely sketchy; the tiles etc. clearly are since they have some modicum of creativity.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I think it's quite messed up that a company as rich as Apple can't abide putting credits for people who have put some really good work in (I've even made small updates to OSM in my time) I do think that this is a very classy move by the OSM people, no ranting blog post or 'Apple stole our stuff', welcoming people presents a much better image of the project.
If OpenStreetMap ends up like the KHTML -> WebKit ascendancy then things could be very good for their team in the future.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
storytime! I want to hear more
Well, the university uses a crappy PeopleSoft webapp thing for searching for co-op jobs. It's slow, ugly, and it goes offline every night at midnight. It's terrible. I got fed up with trying to use it, so I looked at the HTML and decided that it was easy enough to parse. I made the deliberate decision to link to the original job descriptions so that you'd still have to log in to find any real information about the jo…