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Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Post by dang »

floomk wrote: post #75
acatton wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree. Also, this is a thankless task. The app will break every other week when they change webpage (if it's using web scraping) or when they change their internal API because the client was updated. (if it's using the reversed-engineered official app's API)

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Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Post by Daneel_ »

basch wrote: post #67
that_guy_iain wrote: post #28

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> That conveniently glosses over the fact that users provide all the content for free, that these “vandals” then moderate 24/7 for free. > > To say “well, I’m not going to do it if you take away my tools” is entirely fair imo. No other social platform allows users to moderate. Complaining because a social platform gives you a feature you want but doesn't pay you for using the feature you want is really silly. Then to…

>No other social platform allows users to moderate. Facebook Groups?

Discord as well, if you count it as social media.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Post by johnnyanmac »

poulpy123 wrote: post #65
high_5 wrote: post #7

Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.

It's not great but there is no alternative to Reddit

No alternative now. Not gonna be an alternative if someone (which may or may not be "we/us") doesn't start fostering one. Reddit year one wasn't a Digg alternative either.

I'm using Tildes to replace most stuff, HN for more technical news, and then a few gaming news site and animation youtubers for entertainment news. And then tryig to keep an eye on and support some very alpha sites I've found over the weeks. Still myabe 70% replaced, but it's a lot more than the last time I said I'd quit reddit in like, 2017.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Post by johnnyanmac »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #86
high_5 wrote: post #7

Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.

Reddit still has millions of people (tens? 100+?) who choose to use and submit content to the site. That's millions of people you can share Jesus Christ with, show love to (esp encouragement / counseling), learn from, collaborate with, and market to. There's so much good happening over there! To see Reddit as having no value, a person's ideology would have to outweigh all those benefits. If it's a bad business, then…

>To see Reddit as having no value, a person's ideology would have to outweigh all those benefits.

Not quite, the downsides simply have to outweight the benefits. Value is relative, but even before this drama I've simply started valuing reddit less and less. It's harder for me to find actual conversation and I need to filter out more and more noise, toxicity, and outright spam to do it. It's become too much work, and that says a lot given that I browse Youtube and 4chan comments as well.

>If it's a bad business, then all of that value it provides for all of those people wouldn't be worth whatever Reddit asked in return.

Given recent valuations from places like Fidelity, that may in fact be the case. And that's who Reddit is trying to appeal to, not the actual users beneitting from the value of community.

>Much of the turmoil was about API fees. I'm happy to pay their fee to do more good for people.

And I'm sure others do too. However Reddit made it clear next month that they don't want 3rd party devs to divert costs to the users. Which sends a message that they do not want to work with 3rd party devs on their terms.

I don't want to swing this back to that drama, but that example is very endemic of how Reddit has operated for at least 7 years. There are compromises users would like to make but reddit doesn't allow nor make time to make becasuse the focus isn't on user satisfaction.

Maybe others will continue asking. But I'm simply done. The time I spent trying to improve reddit could have honestly been spent finding and fostering a new community who will listen.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Post by johnnyanmac »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #27
nullandvoid wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course Reddit is user hostile. - Can't use web version without getting the mobile version banner forced down your throat every other interaction. - Actively making the non-app version worse than the mobile, for no reason other than engagement metrics. - Not able to view "NSFW" posts (of which everything is just false labeled as that) without logging in; even though it shows you the image on the timeline (the entir…

That's not hostile. That's wanting you to use one version over the other. The fact you think if they don't support your desired version of using it over any other then it's hostile to you. The things you've mentioned aren't even dark patterns. One of them could be considered just a figament of your imagination. And one "Oh they make me log in to see porn" like really? Really?

>That's not hostile. That's wanting you to use one version over the other

user hostile:"A play on the common term "user-friendly", a user-hostile design is one that is, deliberately or accidentally, difficult or cumbersome for the intended user."

Yes, I would consider disabling all controls on the mobile page to turn a simple webpage of comments into an ad for the app as "user hostile". A deliberate one, even.

>And one "Oh they make me log in to see porn" like really? Really?

If they had proper NSFW filters that separated porn from violence from "oh the post had the word 'fuck' in it" from "not even NSFW but the movie is rated R so may as well be safe", I may be inclined to agree. Alas, proper NSFW granularity is another feature long ask for and never given.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Post by nickpsecurity »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #144
nickpsecurity wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit still has millions of people (tens? 100+?) who choose to use and submit content to the site. That's millions of people you can share Jesus Christ with, show love to (esp encouragement / counseling), learn from, collaborate with, and market to. There's so much good happening over there! To see Reddit as having no value, a person's ideology would have to outweigh all those benefits. If it's a bad business, then…

>To see Reddit as having no value, a person's ideology would have to outweigh all those benefits. Not quite, the downsides simply have to outweight the benefits. Value is relative, but even before this drama I've simply started valuing reddit less and less. It's harder for me to find actual conversation and I need to filter out more and more noise, toxicity, and outright spam to do it. It's become too much work, and…

Yeah, there’s lots of noise and toxicity. It reflects the values of those generating it. You gotta find subs with values that produce different things. Two I’m often on are below: one high signal to noise; one whose signal is worth the noise. Hope you find good community.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/

https://www.reddit.com/r/truechristian/

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