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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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post #132

I don't understand how Microsoft benefits from getting everyone to use their web browser? Is it all to spy on people's browsing habits?

Ad revenue from increased user count, spying on browsing habits, scraping user-input data, and promotion-hunting by product managers who want to advertise how their new feature led to X million more clicks per day.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#143

Ugh can't wait until Linux is accessible for blind people like me. Y'all seen the new Windows File Explorer context menu? Freaking sucks. I'm sure I've posted this here before but dang, it just keeps getting worse.

It's incredible how bad it is. Tiny icons of the most important actions, like copy, paste, rename, along the top that are unique designs with no tooltips. If an action isn't available it's not disabled, but missing entirely. This is all not to mention the new strange delay and how it doesn't match the theme of file explorer at all. And if you want to access to options not in the very limited default ones, you have to click "show more options" that opens the classic menu in the old theme. It's just a mess.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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post #3

I believe I have seen the same behaviour on Android for their apps.

That's different and an unfair comparison. Android will open the system browser (which will be chromium based in most instances). It can't just open the default browser because that might break certain functions of android apps if the non system default browser is broken

That argument is surprisingly similar to the one that Microsoft argued back in their antitrust case [1]: that "the merging of Windows and IE was the result of innovation and competition" and "that the two were now the same product and inextricably linked".

For those who were too young at the time, Microsoft lost the first instance of that trial and eventually reached a settlement.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_C....

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#145
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is on iOS, on MacOS they allow other browsers and respect the systemwide defaults. Personally I use Linux unless forced to use something else by my employer.

> That is on iOS, on MacOS they allow other browsers and respect the systemwide defaults. Why is that in any way exonerating? Most people do most of their actual computing on their phones now, it is not an irrelevant toy platform. We should be more, not less, hard on Apple than Microsoft for pulling this shit on their mobile platform.

In many families, ipads have replaced computers for kids as well.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#146
post #48

Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.

Same with Google Maps. It’s really annoying.

I disabled Chrome on my Samsung device and links from Google Maps always open in my Brave browser which is the default I've set

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#147
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need Windows for gaming any more. Ubuntu 22.04 comes with graphics drivers. Steam has Steam Play and Lutris has a huge library of install scripts, so everything is handled for you. The one thing you will need to do occasionally is experiment with different Wine distributions. This means you will need to right click on your game and select the distribution from a drop-down box. Exhausting, I know.

Here's the thing... I have limited time for gaming and when I want to play I just want to sit down and play. My days of sodding about with (the equivalent of) autoexec.bat, config.sys, QEMM configurations, drivers and IRQ allocations are way way behind me for one when one of these combos of drivers and scripts doesn't work, or my game isn't supported, and I just want to spend a hour or two gaming to chill out.

Steam on Linux is like that 99% of the time. Download the game and play it.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#148
post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

It feels like we're back in the '90s during the browser wars: our website only works with IE.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#150

The final straw for me and Windows was when I took the time to remove some annoying feature, cortana or edge, can't remember. Then an update replaced my work. It wasnt some 'uninstall program', but a multi-step process that involved registry editing. I don't feel like I have control over Windows.

I don't know if it's still happening, but for a while windows updates were helpfully "fixing" the EFI boot partition (or maybe it was a boot firmware thing, I never figured it out) by making windows primary and breaking my Linux entry . My friends would be like "do you want to play games?" and I'd be like "yeah hang on while I make some boot media so I can recover afterwards."

This happened on my new PC. I dual-boot Ubuntu with grub2. After Windows update, it booted into Windows immediately and bypassed grub. The EFI had been "fixed".

I worked around this by installing Ubuntu on a second SSD, then I can use my bios menu to change the boot device.

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