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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by BudaDude »

deelowe wrote: post #64
mjamesaustin wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was confused at first by the federated nature of Lemmy, but making an account was easy and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now. The important thing to note – even though you join a particular Lemmy "instance", it doesn't particularly matter which one, because you can subscribe to communities (subreddits) from any instance. The instance I joined – vlemmy.net An aggregator of communities to join – https://lemmyverse.net/c…

Isn't there an issue with instances blocking certain communities on other instances?

Yes but if I recall correctly, whatever you are subscribed to you still see in your feed, even if it’s blocked by the instance. I may be incorrect and if so please correct me.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by seydor »

Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

Everyone.

They are not asking a lot, just don't shut down the site in a hissy fit

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by unshavedyak »

colpabar wrote: post #25
unshavedyak wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they know most will put up with it, just like users. At least, in my view. I've moved from Reddit (user, not a mod), but i think we're fringe. Reddit is going to be humming along like normal soon enough as long as they don't severely upset the average user.

Just like twitter.

TBH, thinking back i'm kinda shocked Digg managed to die over this stuff. Was it just a different audience back in those days? Has Reddit reached a different more apathetic audience? Or is Reddit just not upsetting people as much as Digg did?

Clearly the internet has continued to grow more mainstream which brings a larger, alternate audience. I'm just speaking to the idea of why Digg failed and why Reddit won't (in this pass at least).

"Too big to fail" perhaps?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by vorpalhex »

mattmaroon wrote: post #42

I don’t blame them. Reddit owns the subreddits, not redditors. I have no idea why someone would put the time required into moderating a large sub for no money just for Reddit’s benefit in the first place. A Reddit model where the mods share in profits (kind of how YouTube creators do) would be interesting. But if you’re going to sign up for that, you can’t expect Reddit to just let you tank their site. It was never y…

A subreddit is made up of users, not an entry on reddit.

Reddit can do whatever they want with their site but they can't force users to do anything.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by yieldcrv »

slipheen wrote: post #49
yieldcrv wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mods that were pushed out by other mods in the past People with vendettas and power vacuum opportunists People that want a different narrative on a subreddit There are tons of people that have other causes and interests than API tooling or company drama You know, this is all quite ignorable

That's not exactly a list of people who are likely to do a good job. I think that's part of Reddit's problem - They can replace the mods with random people if they want, but the likelihood that those people will put in the work and do a good job is not high.

> That's not exactly a list of people who are likely to do a good job.

based on what? is the control group the current mods because that's already a laughable set of people. there is no criteria before and there will be no criteria after.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by dale_glass »

ramesh31 wrote: post #118
LordDragonfang wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation Whenever I see this sentiment I'm honestly stumped as to how anyone's experience can be so different from mine. What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly al…

>What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly all of them get stuffed with off-topic and low-effort content, often actively breaking the community rules in the sidebar. That's the problem, it can be anything . No, I'm not going to sit down and read every single bullet point of your specific subreddit…

> No, I'm not going to "revise my post" to step in line with what you're expecting. I'm just never going to bother joining this community now.

Good!

I only visit well curated subreddits. I don't want drive-by visitors, floods of memes, or similar content. My bread and butter are subreddits like r/DebateReligion and r/AskHistorians.

If the mods are not to my liking, there usually is an alternate sub on the same subject that is.

So thank you for staying away.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by ctoth »

RistrettoMike wrote: post #114
ctoth wrote: post #86

Calling it now. Reddit will supply the firehose of data to OpenAI in return for AI moderators. Boom. Human problems solved.

I’d love to see how OpenAI’s overbuilt autocorrect would serve as a moderator in practice. Delightful chaos.

I'm very very not great at prompt engineering and was able to get this working by thinking about it for 30 seconds, so I'm sure you could do way better than this[0].

[0]: https://chat.openai.com/share/69a9d595-ad26-450e-9810-da39e9...

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by x86x87 »

p4bl0 wrote: post #7
lewisflude wrote: post #3

Key paragraphs > If there are mods here who are willing to work towards reopening this community, we are willing to work with you to process a Top Mod Removal request or reorder the mod team to achieve this goal if mods higher up the list are hindering reopening. We would handle this request and any retaliation attempts here in this modmail chain immediately. > Our goal is to work with the existing mod team to find a…

Classic attempt to break a strike. Would mods be employee, this would be illegal (at least in France). This shows how Reddit the company think how the people who work for them for free on Reddit the platform and make its value.

If this was France the mods would already be building a guillotine

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by Freebytes »

This is getting ridiculous. I was not necessarily in agreement with the protest, but after seeing the reaction from Reddit, I am going to unsubscribe from all subreddits that are not part of the protest in support.

This is like a master class in how not to deal with this type of situation.

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