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Post by midoridensha »

redmerchant2 wrote: post #10
fermentation wrote: post #6

Anyone know where the r/learnjapanese folks ended up?

What value do you get out of that sub, out of curiosity? I found it to have good resources that have been aggregated but the most awful “community”. So many weebs with minor proficiency attacking and berating posters.

>What value do you get out of that sub, out of curiosity? I found it to have good resources that have been aggregated but the most awful “community”.

Why does this not surprise me? The Japan-expat-oriented subs on reddit are frequently terrible, especially /r/japanlife, which has the worst mods I've ever seen in a sub.

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Post by caspianm »

guywithahat wrote: post #34
unclekev wrote: post #19

Just went to the 'Programming' lemmy/beehaw and the first thing I see is a post about how they have had to defederate from some instances because of a lack of proper mod tools, trolls and bad actors. The irony. > https://beehaw.org/post/567170 > these two instances’ open registration policy, which is extremely problematic for us given how federation works and how trivial it makes trolling, harassment, and other undes…

One of the biggest issues with the fediverse imo is moderation. People will literally create blacklists of sites, and if you don't follow the blacklist you'll get added to it. You end up in these situations where there are completely separate versions of the fediverse and the largest instances will often not be able to talk to each other. At least before Elon bought Twitter I know the most active (depending on how yo…

> People will literally create blacklists of sites, and if you don't follow the blacklist you'll get added to it.

I imagine some will, but hopefully that won't be the norm. Beehaw isn't doing it.

There's probably been similar stuff on twitter though - blacklists where you get added for following someone else on the blacklist

Re: Subreddit Migration Directory

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Post by smsm42 »

unclekev wrote: post #19

Just went to the 'Programming' lemmy/beehaw and the first thing I see is a post about how they have had to defederate from some instances because of a lack of proper mod tools, trolls and bad actors. The irony. > https://beehaw.org/post/567170 > these two instances’ open registration policy, which is extremely problematic for us given how federation works and how trivial it makes trolling, harassment, and other undes…

That's what has turned me off on the whole fediverse thing. Too much time spent on figuring out who's not going to talk to whom and who is going to be banned from where. I am old enough to remember the old time internet forums. It wasn't always pretty. It wasn't always clean. There were trolls. There were flamewars. But people spent most of the effort to connect and build, not on banning each other and walling off. For me personally, a collection of 100 safe spaces, cross-banning each other, is not something I want to deal with, and defeats the whole purpose.

Re: Subreddit Migration Directory

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Post by smsm42 »

p-e-w wrote: post #62
guywithahat wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the biggest issues with the fediverse imo is moderation. People will literally create blacklists of sites, and if you don't follow the blacklist you'll get added to it. You end up in these situations where there are completely separate versions of the fediverse and the largest instances will often not be able to talk to each other. At least before Elon bought Twitter I know the most active (depending on how yo…

> People will literally create blacklists of sites, and if you don't follow the blacklist you'll get added to it. This is why the Fediverse cannot work. More precisely, it can work, but only in the same way as the thing it tries to replace. It's always the same story: The largest communities impose their rules on everyone else, under threat of exclusion from those communities. This creates power structures that are a…

Usually ego is worse. Money is inclusive - anybody can have money. If the decisions are made purely on money (this never happens in reality, but speaking theoretically) then any community of considerable size can find a home - it's money, so somebody would want to take it. When egos and ideologies come in, then splintering and exclusion runs rampant.
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