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Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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If you want to take an entrepreneurial lesson from this: 1) Get your permits. Dot your Is, cross your Ts if you can. If you can't and you think you are in the right, you should probably do it anyway. 2) If someone infinitely more powerful than you wants you to fail, things will not be easy for you. 3) Politics, business and technology mix whether you want them to or not. 4) If you are a powerful entity bullying your…

If Israel wants to shut you down, it will find a way to shut you down.

Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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Since when did hacker news became a source for politics? That is what the NY Times, Fox News,and CNN are for. Please don't let HN become one of those sites that entices hatred towards another country or a certain group of people. This post should be deleted as it has nothing to do with HN.

> Since when did hacker news became a source for politics?

Since politicians started messing with technology? Btw, the article presents a case thereof, although maybe not to a degree justifying it being on HN. Anyway the implication "if it's politics, it doesn't belong on HN" is obviously false.

Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

M&S hawks Israeli produce: http://www.boycott-israel.co.uk/business-links/133-marks-and... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marks_%26_Spencer#cite_note-53 Unfortunately I can't refer you to a comprehensive information source on companies supporting Israel, but you might find more information by googling for "jews for boycotting israeli goods" or "boycott divestment sanctions" I did find references to several other compan…

Sigh... I flagged the article. Please keep stories like this off HN, it is bad enough with the language wars people. (I follow the Middle East conflict a bit, because it is informative to compare my Swedish media with BBC/NY Times. News items such as Pallywood or torture between Palestinian groups are literally censored.) The basic reason I started to care a bit is because I find it depressing when people hate and de…

You insinuated that my discussion of Hasbara means that I am some kind of "disgusting" Nazi referencing "traditional anti semitic hate propaganda", when I was linking to the Israeli Citizens Information Council's own website.

You may find it "depressing when people hate", well I find it depressing when people can't answer my points and so have to resort to declaring the subject to be off limits, then smearing me, and finally changing the subject to Sudan. You owe me an apology.

Oh, and by the way, the Israelis did shoot children, bomb and rocket cities in Gaza in 2009, so how on earth do you say "(No, it is not the Israeli side that do that.)"?

Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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I was born in Amsterdam and didnt understand this conflict, after seeing numerous documentaries i have an understanding what is going on. Basically zionists believe they are the chosen ones and that all other are inferiour. They believe the land is destined to them. Whatever the UN says. If you think about it this is a similar ideology than the naxis. And in fact the same methods are used. I recommend everybody to wa…

You are wrong on so many levels (and I'm not a jew). When zionism was created in the late 19th century, most jews in the world had NO interest in moving to Palestine or being zionists. Ask yourself the question: why if they believe that the land that is now Israel was theirs on the basis of religion, why were so many jews uninterested in pursuing this? Zionism was a reaction to the hundreds of years of anti-semitism…

Okay i was mixing up religion with zionist, that is true. I also agree with all your points. I basically knew most of the stuff already. And jews have had a hard time yeah.

However: you're not commenting on the main point i'm making:

In the current times, zionists in isreal are behaving exactly like the nazi's where in WWII.

1) They are building walls

2) They deprive palestines from food and electricity

3) They are occupying land that belongs to Palestine under insternational law (they are building big flats over the well known internal red border) http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bilin,+israel&hl=en&ll...

4) Zionist believe (because they follow judaism) they are the chosen ones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_as_a_chosen_people

Could you please tell me what of this is incorrect. It is totally right. And when watching the movie you could see the isreal army burning olives tree in order to scare the people, they shoot tear gas at childer and they are building very big walls.

You are just telling me what happened to the jews. I know that! I also know that the dutch where not the best and helped the germans a lot. But that is HISTORY. I wasnt alive then. I couldnt help people. Currently the same thing is happening.

But ironically enough it is the zionists in isreal that are doign the same. And goverment is helping them.

Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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This is totally irrelevant to HN and is one of the issues on the Internet most likely to start a flame war. Flagged. georgecmu you appear to have been around HN a good while, which surprises me as it's more than long enough to know this is totally inappropriate. Go to reddit.com/r/worldnews or one of the other relevant subreddits if you want to discuss this issue.

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Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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I don't understand Israel politics at all. Why not act straight and just deport all Arabs from inside their current borders? There are so many Muslim states around that should (willingly or not) give the refugees a shelter. It's not like that will make people with anti-Israel feelings hate them more than destroying perfectly good solar panels when a global energy crisis is quite likely.

Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

M&S hawks Israeli produce: http://www.boycott-israel.co.uk/business-links/133-marks-and... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marks_%26_Spencer#cite_note-53 Unfortunately I can't refer you to a comprehensive information source on companies supporting Israel, but you might find more information by googling for "jews for boycotting israeli goods" or "boycott divestment sanctions" I did find references to several other compan…

Sigh... I flagged the article. Please keep stories like this off HN, it is bad enough with the language wars people. (I follow the Middle East conflict a bit, because it is informative to compare my Swedish media with BBC/NY Times. News items such as Pallywood or torture between Palestinian groups are literally censored.) The basic reason I started to care a bit is because I find it depressing when people hate and de…

berntb have a look at http://mondoweiss.net

It is liberal jewish website that criticizes the Sudanese genocide and the treatment of Palestinian refugees by the arab world, seeing as you don't get enough of that from the Swedish media.

(Links http://mondoweiss.net/2012/02/the-palestinian-refugees-of-le... http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/darfur-part-2-lets-get-to-know...)

Mondoweiss however don't use these stories to cover up Israel's crimes either

So you don't have to worry, there aren't "double standards for different groups..."

Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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This is totally irrelevant to HN and is one of the issues on the Internet most likely to start a flame war. Flagged. georgecmu you appear to have been around HN a good while, which surprises me as it's more than long enough to know this is totally inappropriate. Go to reddit.com/r/worldnews or one of the other relevant subreddits if you want to discuss this issue.

What's inappropriate is your attempt to bury human rights abuses by trying to have a post like this removed.

Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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This post is no less informative and no more political than, for example, this post on ACTA: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3620579 In my understanding it is in fact both acceptable under the guidelines and especially relevant to hackers and I will explain my reasoning on each point in order. The post is acceptable under the guidelines because it is factual reporting about Palestine and Israel, which is importan…

hijacked by hasbara? please... your entire post is propoganda!

So now it's propaganda to tell the truth about human rights abuses? I can't believe this, the outrage that people would have about a statement like that were we talking about Syria or South Africa would be insane. When it's Israel everyone has to give them a free pass? Stop trying to bury the truth of what Israel is doing to their own people just because they are Arabs.

Re: Israel to destroy Palestinians' solar panels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh... I flagged the article. Please keep stories like this off HN, it is bad enough with the language wars people. (I follow the Middle East conflict a bit, because it is informative to compare my Swedish media with BBC/NY Times. News items such as Pallywood or torture between Palestinian groups are literally censored.) The basic reason I started to care a bit is because I find it depressing when people hate and de…

You insinuated that my discussion of Hasbara means that I am some kind of "disgusting" Nazi referencing "traditional anti semitic hate propaganda", when I was linking to the Israeli Citizens Information Council's own website. You may find it "depressing when people hate", well I find it depressing when people can't answer my points and so have to resort to declaring the subject to be off limits, then smearing me, and…

You have nothing to say about that the Arab countries destroy Palestinians' lives more than Israel ever did? Or my other points re double standards?

>>You insinuated that my discussion of Hasbara means that I am some kind of "disgusting" Nazi referencing "traditional anti semitic hate propaganda", when I was linking to the Israeli Citizens Information Council's own website.

You wrote that you thought the Jews controlled the information in the US media. That is less than one step from the Zion protocols, quoted in the Hamas charter etc.

That is traditional antisemitic conspiracy arguments.

>>the Israelis did shoot children, bomb and rocket cities in Gaza in 2009

If an army fight people that hide among civilians, there will be civilian victims. Even if the army follows the war laws. That is very different from targeting and glorifying murdering children, which I wrote about.

(And civilians are generally not a direct target for the Israeli army -- Yes, you know the Israelis are evil and want to murder children, but please realise it is bad PR and against their direct interests.)

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