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Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by presentation »

Reading through the docs, some thoughts:

- RE Observability, the lack of APIs to tag emails and retrieve them by tags makes this worse from that perspective to me because I’ve used Mailgun’s APIs before to pull down all emails we’ve sent in a burst to allow reconciling it against external data. No way to export data programmatically means that I can’t really do that type of reconciliation.

- some weird things in the docs like in the NextJS example it provides both raw HTML and react bodies for the email; not sure what this means. Also not clear why you don’t use JSX to render the email templates which seems not that idiomatic.

- as mentioned in a separate comment, GDPR/SOC2 stance would be good to know.

But looks promising, been burned by incumbents just generally having bad support, so looking forward to variety here.

Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by Nazzareno »

iamacyborg wrote: post #81
whstl wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Instead of hand-crafting an HTML template with etc" You forgot a whole lot of , all the inline CSS and all the IE11 comment hacks. Oh, and also OfficeHTML or whatever abomination that is called, because Microsoft Word 2003 also remains alive inside Outlook. Most people doing anything of medium complexity is already using some abstraction layer, such as MJML [1]. Also remember you gotta either test on multiple client…

> Most people doing anything of medium complexity is already using some abstraction layer, such as MJML Citation needed. I’m an admin for the largest email community online (emailgeeks) and when folks talk about code, everyone is talking about writing this stuff by hand.

Manual coding is getting very inefficient since it takes hours plus it requires a lot of testing (ie with litmus or emailonacid).

There are modern alternatives to manual coding both for developers (embeddable editors for SAAS) such as beefree, unlayer, chamaileon, stripo and for email designers like beefree, stensul, knak, stripo, taxiforemail...

Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by throwaway85858 »

Looks cool, i would agree the space needs a shakeup.

But I see you don't have an inbound offering, I'm looking for something similar to what sendgrid and mailgun offer in that i can receive a POST request to my API everytime someone sends an email to test@mydomain.com. Ideally with the following features:

1. Solid email MIME data parsing into JSON or XML

2. retry handling

3. included in the free tier (mailgun excludes this)

4. inbound routing based on parsed data

Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by ignoramous »

codersfocus wrote: post #6

I think if you’re targeting developers, SES is your biggest competitor. Their very cheap pay as you go pricing is more attractive than your monthly pricing. If email templates with react is your usp, I think I’ve seen libraries that offer that already.

> I think if you’re targeting developers, SES is your biggest competitor.

Cloudflare via MailChannels is virtually free: https://blog.cloudflare.com/sending-email-from-workers-with-...

It lacks tooling / observability that a marketer would want though.

Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by mercurialsolo »

What i would really love to see in a developer email service is also some workflows baked into the emails. There's a ton of times you would want to wire up a service and just set it for transactional events but also as sequences and with a default set of templates wired up. Think Zapier meets Sendgrid for emails and a set of templates maybe wired for default dev flows like Signup, Verification, Billing receipts.

We do use SG for transactional emails and their email DX is frankly abysmal. Also not a big fan of html for transactional emails but sometimes you gotta do it.

Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by thesimon »

joao wrote: post #112
codersfocus wrote: post #6

I think if you’re targeting developers, SES is your biggest competitor. Their very cheap pay as you go pricing is more attractive than your monthly pricing. If email templates with react is your usp, I think I’ve seen libraries that offer that already.

Resend is, or at least at launch was, using SES as their email provider.

Sucks because SES reliability is a mixed bag and more competition would be good.

Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by rolfkip »

mercurialsolo wrote: post #145

What i would really love to see in a developer email service is also some workflows baked into the emails. There's a ton of times you would want to wire up a service and just set it for transactional events but also as sequences and with a default set of templates wired up. Think Zapier meets Sendgrid for emails and a set of templates maybe wired for default dev flows like Signup, Verification, Billing receipts. We d…

This sounds a lot like ServiceNow to me

Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by mightytravels »

ignoramous wrote: post #144
codersfocus wrote: post #6

I think if you’re targeting developers, SES is your biggest competitor. Their very cheap pay as you go pricing is more attractive than your monthly pricing. If email templates with react is your usp, I think I’ve seen libraries that offer that already.

> I think if you’re targeting developers, SES is your biggest competitor. Cloudflare via MailChannels is virtually free: https://blog.cloudflare.com/sending-email-from-workers-with-... It lacks tooling / observability that a marketer would want though.

Are there any unpublished limits for this? Asking for a friend :)

Re: Launch HN: Resend (YC W23) – Email API for developers using React

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Post by mightytravels »

btown wrote: post #28
codersfocus wrote: post #6

I think if you’re targeting developers, SES is your biggest competitor. Their very cheap pay as you go pricing is more attractive than your monthly pricing. If email templates with react is your usp, I think I’ve seen libraries that offer that already.

Does SES still have a reputation for being flagged as spam more often than other senders?

SES reputation is medium at best. But they allow everyone to send emails so you get what you pay for...
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