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I am in general unconcerned with AI risks. However, AI should be permanently banned from use in war. There is no good that can come from this.
Its probably been used in war for decades now
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Wrong company. That's Anduril. Palantir is mostly in the analytics, ingest, and business intelligence space. That said I think they are making an AI Platform of sorts, but it's not that impressive.
Anduril is hiring, for anybody looking, there are lots of positions all over the globe, all skillsets - https://jobs.lever.co/anduril/ edit: there were some interesting responses, but it seems HN has pruned the entire comment chain. i'd like to encourage others to consider whether censorship is necessary in adult spaces, especially HN - i did not ask to be insulated from criticism. critical comments are a chance to h…
They offer $112,000 - $198,000 a year for this position, which requires some pretty wild math competency, electrical engineering, simulations experience, and security clearance:
https://jobs.lever.co/anduril/b78e5e78-f09f-4be8-995c-71ead3...
Or you can write React and TypeScript for $160,000 - $240,000 a year
https://jobs.lever.co/anduril/610cb495-bfd9-4a0c-8c55-a2756a...
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> Karp believes that the West currently holds key commercial and military advantages in AI and should not relinquish them. Delusional take, considering the East holds the AI advantage.
Yeah, I'm sure you have better insight and way more knowledge about the state of AI than Karp. What does he know anyway. It's not like Plantir has any special access to AI or the US Military.
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>The fact that Palantir is a criminal organization is plainly true and certainly substantive. Perhaps it's plainly true in some trivial sense (all large orgs have committed some crimes), but not in any legally-relevant sense. Otherwise people have to explain the obvious incongruity between this "plain truth" and the obvious fact that Palantir is not facing the sort of legal problems that would be expected of a "crimi…
It’s not true in a trivial sense it’s true in a deep and legally relevant sense. The company is a major accomplice in the blatantly illegal mass surveillance of Americans. This isn’t like a big conspiracy theory people have won Pulitzer Prizes over it and all that. It’s a completely reasonably inference that this person advocating for fewer restrictions on a powerful new technology is hoping to use it to conduct more…
Even were that the case, it's unclear to me that merely providing material aid to a criminal government organization would make a company a "criminal enterprise".
Perhaps uncharitably, this seems akin to arguments that would condemn a large share of contractors involved in military / police / intelligence work as "criminal".
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It’s not true in a trivial sense it’s true in a deep and legally relevant sense. The company is a major accomplice in the blatantly illegal mass surveillance of Americans. This isn’t like a big conspiracy theory people have won Pulitzer Prizes over it and all that. It’s a completely reasonably inference that this person advocating for fewer restrictions on a powerful new technology is hoping to use it to conduct more…
It sounds like you're arguing that these government programs are "criminal enterprises", which would be a much deeper problem if the legal system can't weed them out. Even were that the case, it's unclear to me that merely providing material aid to a criminal government organization would make a company a "criminal enterprise". Perhaps uncharitably, this seems akin to arguments that would condemn a large share of con…
Yes of course the inability of the legal system to deal with it is a deep problem.
My argument is that people who break the law are criminals. It’s not a subtle point I’m making here.
The only point of confusion seems to be your surprise to discover that people with power commit crimes openly and with impunity.
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Unfortunately the general case seems to be influenced quite strongly by Yud. It’s a trickle down effect. So, you’re right, and it’s a good point, as you say. But it was also correct for them to point to Yud specifically as one of the original sources of what some might call hysteria, and others might call reasonable concerns.
Exactly. The median person with AI concerns is nowhere near Yud, but I have seen him influence the discourse so much that to me, AI concerns = Yud.
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Anduril is hiring, for anybody looking, there are lots of positions all over the globe, all skillsets - https://jobs.lever.co/anduril/ edit: there were some interesting responses, but it seems HN has pruned the entire comment chain. i'd like to encourage others to consider whether censorship is necessary in adult spaces, especially HN - i did not ask to be insulated from criticism. critical comments are a chance to h…
I find their salaries posted really odd. They offer $112,000 - $198,000 a year for this position, which requires some pretty wild math competency, electrical engineering, simulations experience, and security clearance: https://jobs.lever.co/anduril/b78e5e78-f09f-4be8-995c-71ead3... Or you can write React and TypeScript for $160,000 - $240,000 a year https://jobs.lever.co/anduril/610cb495-bfd9-4a0c-8c55-a2756a...
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It sounds like you're arguing that these government programs are "criminal enterprises", which would be a much deeper problem if the legal system can't weed them out. Even were that the case, it's unclear to me that merely providing material aid to a criminal government organization would make a company a "criminal enterprise". Perhaps uncharitably, this seems akin to arguments that would condemn a large share of con…
Yes members of government who routinely break the law and those who further those efforts are engaged in criminal enterprise. Yes of course the inability of the legal system to deal with it is a deep problem. My argument is that people who break the law are criminals. It’s not a subtle point I’m making here. The only point of confusion seems to be your surprise to discover that people with power commit crimes openly…
In any case, even when illegal government programs exist it's again unclear to me what sort of due diligence a contractor would have to make to avoid being labeled as a "criminal organization". Similarly, a lot of people consider soldiers who fought in Iraq to be murderers, and I see the point but it would come off as confusing in a normal conversation about a particular person to just casually label them as a murderer because of this.
Palantir is a criminal organization that should have their corporate charter dissolved. Re-posting what their CEO says is enabling them. And there's especially no reason to listen to them on the topic of machine learning. I agree there's no reason to "pause" anything but it's just a broken clock being right twice per day.
I do find that Karp sounds like a huckster, but criminal … sad that this got so many upvotes.
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Palantir is a solution provider for my company [Airbus]. We are reasonably satisfied with the product they provide us. Not being politically involved, and as a European not really aware of the action of Palantir in the US, could you elaborate on the « nastiness » of that Palantir?
Airbus uses Palantir Foundry, which I think is not that controversial. The controversial things everyone talks about are their other products like Gotham which is for the police/military. In germany it is Unconstitutional to use. Here is a german article about it: https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/warum-die-polizei-softwar...