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Post by gabereiser »

napsterbr wrote: post #131
LeSaucy wrote: post #93

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Any developer should be proud of the value that code/backend provided millions of users.

Amen to that. When I first started coding (some 15 years ago) I wrote the ugliest, buggiest and "owasp-ridden-est" PHP spaghetti code. Turns out that code went viral and was used by millions of users for a few years. Yet, I came to the conclusion that that's the best code I've ever written, for it's been the most used code I released so far. Real software development is far different than the ideal one.

Software managers take note… Your MVP isn’t necessarily your perfect code. It’s the messy, “get it out the door”, value it brings to others. This is your product, refine it from there but don’t hold it back for sake of polishing a turd. Myth busters proved you can indeed, polish a turd. Don’t waste the sprints.

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Post by Goronmon »

tester457 wrote: post #97
542458 wrote: post #52

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I haven’t seen a compelling OS alternative to Reddit yet. The ones I’ve seen have all either been big on decentralization at the expense of long load times and a lot of UI complexity, or big on 4chan-style dialogue with little moderation. Neither of those sounds like a great migration path. IMO this is the same problem “migrate off Twitter” efforts had.

Have you seen Tildes? - incredible moderation and respectful community - you can't sort by controversial - non-profit, no investors can corrupt it - beautifully simple UI, better than old.reddit on mobile - fast and not decentralized - no images just text - open source - The site is the main mobile interface, not an app - No limits to logged-out browsing - Completely functional for browsing without javascript - Zero…

I want to like Tildes, but to be completely honest, it annoys me that the '~' character is used heavily. Both from a look perspective and a typing perspective.

Maybe I could get used to it overtime, but we'll see if it ever becomes non-invite-only.

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Post by ziftface »

soraminazuki wrote: post #117
trollied wrote: post #8

There's a Reddit CEO AMA later today: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce... Can't see it being anything other than a PR disaster for them, unless they change their stance.

I don't think there's anything Reddit could do at this point to not let it be a PR disaster. That includes changing their stance. What they're doing is so egregious, naming and shaming and lying about people who brought immense value to the community for years. All out of misguided greed.

I was talking with a friend about this the other day and he brought up a good point. If you were about to IPO as a company, this is not a bad decision from a business standpoint (cut costs, bring as many users as possible under your control). Obviously the way they executed the decision could be harmful to them, but based on the pressures they're under, I can't see how you could blame them too much. Which is why the only enduring platform has to be something federated like mastodon or lemmy, since they won't have the same economic/capitalist pressures to make the product worse.

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Post by Semaphor »

mypastself wrote: post #87
xwdv wrote: post #73

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When old.reddit.com is gone, that will be the true end.

What are you basing this on? Do we have any data regarding the percentages of mobile/old/app users?

I wish I still had the graph, but someone posted something for their (150k subs) subreddit recently, and it was below 10% old. No idea what sub, or what the source was so, so take this with a pitcher of salt.

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Post by internetter »

andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

I'm curious if ya'll have any plans to support a reddit alternative, like Tweetbot -> Ivory and other twitter clients. I love Lemmy. I think it would be an excellent middle finger to reddit, but I understand if you are ready for the next thing

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Post by Engineering-MD »

tester457 wrote: post #97
542458 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven’t seen a compelling OS alternative to Reddit yet. The ones I’ve seen have all either been big on decentralization at the expense of long load times and a lot of UI complexity, or big on 4chan-style dialogue with little moderation. Neither of those sounds like a great migration path. IMO this is the same problem “migrate off Twitter” efforts had.

Have you seen Tildes? - incredible moderation and respectful community - you can't sort by controversial - non-profit, no investors can corrupt it - beautifully simple UI, better than old.reddit on mobile - fast and not decentralized - no images just text - open source - The site is the main mobile interface, not an app - No limits to logged-out browsing - Completely functional for browsing without javascript - Zero…

I’m interested in trying it. Do you have an invite link by any chance?

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Post by andremedeiros »

mrweasel wrote: post #137
andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

Making the code available is a wonderful thing to do. I love being able to see how others managed and structured a Go project that was actually meant to run in production. Thank you.

Keep in mind that this isn’t rooted in any specific best practices. It just felt right.

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Post by chris37879 »

andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

You wrote code that works and powers an app for millions every month and any bugs or 'bad' ways of doing it are clearly sufficient to maintain a large, healthy user base, so you should feel nothing but pride!

Also, thank you for making this code available, but would it be possible for you and Christian to choose a license for it so people can use it? I don't think which license matters all that much, personally, but I can also understand wanting to keep it proprietary, either way, thank you again for all your (and the rest of the Apollo teams') work.

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Post by hgsgm »

lolinder wrote: post #96
wongarsu wrote: post #63

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However if a company's CEO holds a reddit AMA that company probably does care what the public thinks.

Or that company cares what the Reddit community thinks and is convinced that they have an ace in the hole. An ace like, say, having full control over the platform and being able to make the AMA look like it goes however they want it to.

Reddit community is far to suspicious of Reddit corporate to fall for that.

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Post by hgsgm »

WithinReason wrote: post #50
gtsteve wrote: post #18

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I don't think it will. It'll IPO just fine, make their shareholders wealthy and become another millquetoast advertiser friendly walled garden for your average internet user while the jilted original users go and find another platform, which will in turn IPO just fine, make their shareholders wealthy and the cycle repeats forever. The average internet user by the way, is statistically not you reading this, doesn't rea…

This is what will happen, and generally the people who would leave over these changes are the ones who make worthwhile content, and now they will move elsewhere. But where?

People (statistically on average, not you) come to reddit for ragebait and plagiarism and priacy, not worthwhile content.
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