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Telegram seems like the logical choice. It has everything WhatsApp does and more.

Why is this downvoted? Telegram is IMO the best alternative to WhatsApp. It has a much better UX than Signal, more desirable features, not to mention more users and channels. There is an on-demand E2E encryption for those who want it. Pavel Durov is not on a friendly terms with Russian govt now for those who care about it. You can pay for the service to support the company, get rid of ads and gain some meaningless fe…

I disagree on the UX. It is overly complicated, with all kinds of hidden gestures and unintuitive ways of doing things.

Just the other day i was trying to share another user with my wife and just couldn't figure it out. I think there were some hidden privacy settings for that user that i wasn't aware of.

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Why is this downvoted? Telegram is IMO the best alternative to WhatsApp. It has a much better UX than Signal, more desirable features, not to mention more users and channels. There is an on-demand E2E encryption for those who want it. Pavel Durov is not on a friendly terms with Russian govt now for those who care about it. You can pay for the service to support the company, get rid of ads and gain some meaningless fe…

I disagree on the UX. It is overly complicated, with all kinds of hidden gestures and unintuitive ways of doing things. Just the other day i was trying to share another user with my wife and just couldn't figure it out. I think there were some hidden privacy settings for that user that i wasn't aware of.

Isn't it a good default for that user's privacy?

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What is your definition of a social network? In my view a social network requires that you actually represent social connections on the platform. Afaik there is no way for me to establish such a social connection with you on HN.

Explicit social connections are dying trend on social network, as weird as it sounds. TikTok, Twitter's "For you", Reels - all of them are considered to be social networks, and they depend on algorithmic feeds recommending content to you.

Interesting point. Then I think we should acknowledge that former social networks are morphing into something that should no longer be called a social network?

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>He fired all the people who held the line on its ongoing degradation, so it's getting worse. What's actually different about it other than it loads faster and the For You feed is good now?

It loads no faster for me. The For You feed is worse for me. Top replies to posts I do want to see are consistently more hostile. These used to fall to the bottom or behind a filter click like they should.

The speed increases were mostly for non-us. I dunno my for you used to just be American politics drama, tiresome to read as a non-American. Now it’s generated from my following interests.

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And what is that model?

One multi-usage phone app (chat, pay, navigate, …)

Ah... so the one that myriad people have been chasing for at least 2 decades, now. I've lost count of the number of companies I've consulted to who were chasing that chimera. Good luck to them, I say, while gleefully taking money off them.

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Public networks are dead. We did it for two decades and now people need to go back to something more real and private. Social networks in the current form are just attention seeking. We've been trained to say things that will garner likes and retweets. I welcome text and chat, maybe even voice to text but not in the public form. Closed networks only now.

reddit disagrees.

Niche subreddits are usually good, unfortunately when a subreddit becomes famous lots of people start posting without learning the etiquette.

Moderating a big subreddit is not easy, you can go from having several chains of comments removed (eg. r/science) to getting flooded with bots (eg. reddit.com).

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What is your definition of a social network? In my view a social network requires that you actually represent social connections on the platform. Afaik there is no way for me to establish such a social connection with you on HN.

Explicit social connections are dying trend on social network, as weird as it sounds. TikTok, Twitter's "For you", Reels - all of them are considered to be social networks, and they depend on algorithmic feeds recommending content to you.

Don’t all these platforms have a way to DM people? Or does tiktok not have that?
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