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The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by ipaddr »

lyair1 wrote: post #87

I am happy that so many people get to experience the feeling me and other software engineers feel when we write code. OpenAI democratize some of this feeling and now people that never knew how to code can experience the rush of creating something new using code. In a world where a lot of AI Researchers that develop these amazing models are slowed down by their lack of "normal" engineering skills I think it's very app…

You don't get that feeling around solving complex logic puzzles in your brain. You do get to copy and paste

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by stasmo »

the_doctah wrote: post #128
lyair1 wrote: post #87

I am happy that so many people get to experience the feeling me and other software engineers feel when we write code. OpenAI democratize some of this feeling and now people that never knew how to code can experience the rush of creating something new using code. In a world where a lot of AI Researchers that develop these amazing models are slowed down by their lack of "normal" engineering skills I think it's very app…

People who use ChatGPT to spit out code as a method of learning software engineering are going to be seriously deficient in fundamentals like performance. I've already worked with way too many engineers who copy/paste code without understanding what it does.

The good news is that those copy/pasters are probably going to be copy/pasting higher quality code if they’re using GPT4.

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by rerx »

DonsDiscountGas wrote: post #104

ChatGPT has been useful to me for learning/looking-up a lot of things, although it sometimes drives me crazy. Often I'll want to use libraries which are rapidly developing, and the training data ending at 2021 kills the accuracy. A webcrawler + chatGPT would be incredibly useful. So far I've only found tools designed for the web admin (finetune on your support docs + make a chatbot for users) rather than something de…

Have you tried https://www.phind.com ?

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by mazzystar »

renjimen wrote: post #122

> Staying in any company right now is a negative return; you are wasting personal leverage. I think it's a bit sad that the only benefit someone can see in their workplace is their salary. Also, I get the feeling this person has never done anything outside of consumer app development with minimal stakeholder interaction. Overall I think it's great we can supercharge our learning and coding capabilities, but it would…

As the author of the article, I would say it has nothing to do with money. It has to do with your definition of living your life in a more meaningful way. By return I don't mean money, but your energy, time and potential.

Also, I admire the group that optimized OS, but I'm just not used to teamwork. In my previous job, once I had come up with an idea of having a virtual pet, and they thought it was awesome, but when I said that you could define having any content, including a ball of lightning or even a nebula, no one seemed to know what I was talking about.

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by nivenkos »

the_doctah wrote: post #128
lyair1 wrote: post #87

I am happy that so many people get to experience the feeling me and other software engineers feel when we write code. OpenAI democratize some of this feeling and now people that never knew how to code can experience the rush of creating something new using code. In a world where a lot of AI Researchers that develop these amazing models are slowed down by their lack of "normal" engineering skills I think it's very app…

People who use ChatGPT to spit out code as a method of learning software engineering are going to be seriously deficient in fundamentals like performance. I've already worked with way too many engineers who copy/paste code without understanding what it does.

But the awesome part is that you can ask it to explain parts and it usually does pretty well.

I was using it for debugging WINE - where I have no DirectDraw4 / DirectX6 experience, and it's much nicer than trying to trawl through ancient MS documentation myself.

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by nr2x »

Ethan_Mick wrote: post #67

> More importantly, it gives me the courage to dream and attempt things beyond my current abilities. This is one of the small things that GPT has pushed me to do. I'm an experienced programmer and grew up playing video games, but I am not a game developer. I've dabbled over the years but can't build anything outside of a tutorial. The other day, using GPT I went through and made a Pixel Dungeon clone using Phaser (Ja…

I’ve been using it a lot for programming, but I also have a security background and it will often generate insecure code. I’ll point it out and tell it to fix and it will.

So be careful if you don’t want AI-generated sql intentions!

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by stonekyx »

geek_at wrote: post #7

Learning something with GTP-4 is so much more fun than using google/Stack Overflow. It's like having a tutor that knows your code and gives you hints and solutions based on your actual project. It's a real game changer for learning

I understand the excitement feeling of using something like this to greatly reduce the learning effort. Before GPT/ChatGPT, it was definitely frustrating to "bootstrap" your knowledge in any new area where you don't have prior experience.

But still, I treasure the old ways I learned how to program. It was such a fulfilling experience by making newbie mistakes and getting corrected in hard ways, and you really only get the authentic insight by going through that process, and by reading all those important books chapter by chapter. It's probably not as "fun" as using GPT-4 though.

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by SamPatt »

ipaddr wrote: post #141
lyair1 wrote: post #87

I am happy that so many people get to experience the feeling me and other software engineers feel when we write code. OpenAI democratize some of this feeling and now people that never knew how to code can experience the rush of creating something new using code. In a world where a lot of AI Researchers that develop these amazing models are slowed down by their lack of "normal" engineering skills I think it's very app…

You don't get that feeling around solving complex logic puzzles in your brain. You do get to copy and paste

I use GPT-4 for helping with my code all the time and I still get that feeling, because once the code base is sufficiently complex there's no avoiding the logic puzzles.

Maybe one day it can look at your entire code base and just fix it / writea new feature, but it's definitely not there yet.

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by blissfulresup »

nr2x wrote: post #146
Ethan_Mick wrote: post #67

> More importantly, it gives me the courage to dream and attempt things beyond my current abilities. This is one of the small things that GPT has pushed me to do. I'm an experienced programmer and grew up playing video games, but I am not a game developer. I've dabbled over the years but can't build anything outside of a tutorial. The other day, using GPT I went through and made a Pixel Dungeon clone using Phaser (Ja…

I’ve been using it a lot for programming, but I also have a security background and it will often generate insecure code. I’ll point it out and tell it to fix and it will. So be careful if you don’t want AI-generated sql intentions!

As if injections weren’t bad enough, they’re now done with intent.

Re: The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

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Post by throwuwu »

nielsole wrote: post #53
vemv wrote: post #40

There's a long gap from: I built a podcast search website to: Staying in any company right now is a negative return. We humans are too easily impressed by tricks, and are too willing to extrapolate them to fantasy land. GPT can certainly accomplish an impressive variety of small tasks. Whether it can build large-scale systems that will power tomorrow's world is uncharted territory. Can you build something meaningful,…

> If you believe it's possible, where's everyone's array of profitable, newly-founded ventures? Or at least have you automated your job away yet? Come on now. GPT 4 is not even out for two months. API access is not yet widely available. Legal questions are preventing many conservative players from adoption. How fast do you think progress propagates?

The OP better buy some ketchup cause they’ll be eating those words in a few months.
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