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A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by selimthegrim »

bombcar wrote: post #134
lovemenot wrote: post #101

>> In 1998, the feud between the Navy, which still owned Yerba Buena Island, and Brown went public. Navy officials expressed frustration that the new eastern span would flow directly over Nimitz House and the nearby historic residences of other officers. A Navy aide called the plan “devastating.” Not In My Immediate Territorial Zone

“Don’t build here!” “Oh yeah? We’re the state! You and what navy will stop us?” “We ARE the Navy!” “Oh.”

That’s how Robert Moses’ plans for a Manhattan bridge were stopped - when FDR blocked it on national security grounds for the Navy

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by aetherson »

WJW wrote: post #114
t-writescode wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Travel Agents tend to be free (for the traveler), what are you talking about?

Unless they are also free for the person renting out the place, wouldn't they simply raise the price by the cost of the travel agent?

No doubt. But probably not specifically for this stay, so basically all the people who also rent this place without using a travel agent are subsidizing your use of the travel agent.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by systemtest »

eastbound wrote: post #16
startupsfail wrote: post #12

Cars really should be put underground. Electric cars going in tunnels, not gasoline cars spewing the exhaust from the top of the bridge. … The mansion’s bright white siding is turning dull and black from car exhaust. …

It puts the fun into “In 2000 we’ll have flying cars” when the whole XXth century was spent building highways and ramps that were higher and higher into the air, and the whole XXIth will be spent trying to put them underground. The real futurist landscape is a city like Lyon in France, or Amsterdam, where cars are put away and we walk or bike to work.

Most of the times I have worked in Amsterdam people did not go to work by bike or on foot. Most people came in by car, the second largest group used the train into Amsterdam and only a small part was able to walk or bike to work. Those were usually upper-management, people able to afford housing in Amsterdam and not living in the surrounding suburbs and satellite cities. For them it was still a 25 minute bike ride to the industrial estate that the office was in, so sometimes they would call an Uber to work.

Anecdotal though.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by SmellyPotato22 »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #51
ihaveajob wrote: post #7

Fun fact: You can reach it by bike from the east bay now, and it makes for a fun ride. Just be careful for side winds!

Fun fact: You still can't reach Treasure Island or Yerba Buena island by foot or bike from San Francisco. People living on TI are entirely dependent on Muni and private automobiles, and even then SFMTA tried to cut service to Treasure Island a few years back.

Recently a regular ferry that goes between the island and the ferry building was established. It’s a very pleasant ride and they allow you to take your bike on it.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by greenhorn360 »

tomcam wrote: post #94
ahi wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From personal experience, just stick the youngest on the floor

That’s outrageous. You could trip over one and sprain your ankle. We just tied ours outside and told people the kids identified as dogs.

There's an active genocide going on but you just had to go there. This would have still been funny without this tired, old, cliche of a "joke"

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by perfmode »

t-writescode wrote: post #108
whitemary wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hiring this type of professional does not come at a "competitive rate"

Travel Agents tend to be free (for the traveler), what are you talking about?

where does one find a travel agent?

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by [deleted] »

greenhorn360 wrote: post #146
tomcam wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s outrageous. You could trip over one and sprain your ankle. We just tied ours outside and told people the kids identified as dogs.

There's an active genocide going on but you just had to go there. This would have still been funny without this tired, old, cliche of a "joke"

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Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by inferiorhuman »

SmellyPotato22 wrote: post #145
inferiorhuman wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: You still can't reach Treasure Island or Yerba Buena island by foot or bike from San Francisco. People living on TI are entirely dependent on Muni and private automobiles, and even then SFMTA tried to cut service to Treasure Island a few years back.

Recently a regular ferry that goes between the island and the ferry building was established. It’s a very pleasant ride and they allow you to take your bike on it.

Sure, but that doesn't really change the dynamic of having to rely on public transit or private vehicles. In addition ferries are among the most expensive modes of transit with an outsized environmental impact. Against the backdrop of the city trying to move TI from Section 8 housing to luxury condos that's even worse, IMO. Either they're going to price it out of reach of the poors or they're going to force everyone to subsidize luxury transit for the richie riches.

100% there needs to be a pedestrian+bike path to San Francisco from the island.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by tomcam »

greenhorn360 wrote: post #146
tomcam wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s outrageous. You could trip over one and sprain your ankle. We just tied ours outside and told people the kids identified as dogs.

There's an active genocide going on but you just had to go there. This would have still been funny without this tired, old, cliche of a "joke"

No genocide at all. Most of our kids survived!
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