I had already pre-ordered off the previous announcement, and I'm glad I did. I'm excited to receive my DIY kit and assemble it.
The Framework Laptop 13
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#143I'm waffling on my pre-order because I realized Frameworks don't have touchscreens, which I really enjoy when reading long articles. Kind of wild that they offer all these other features that seem very niche, but a common one these days is absent.
I've only been using Macs for a while now and was a thinkpad guy long ago so pardon my ignorance here but a touchscreen really considered common feature of a laptop now? Last I tried it I found the experience to be really awkward and not better than using a trackpad or mouse.
At least in the laptops I look at (mainly Thinkpads), yes it is a common feature.
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#144I've been waiting for this machine for so long, excited to see the actual CPU unveil. I may be out of date, but is the issue with not entering sleep mode properly resolved? That's a huge issue to me. Aside from Framework, does anyone suggest any other existing laptops that keep a fairly slim design while also offering lots of user repairability? I've had an okay experience with my Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 3, but she's…
The (quite cheap) Lenovo Ideapads are quite good. I've upgraded my S540 with 32 GB of RAM (instead of the base 8) myself, it can receive a second M.2 SSD, and the first one is also upgradeable. The only small problem is with the keyboard : the most used keys are completely blank after 3 years of use :)
> The only small problem is with the keyboard : the most used keys are completely blank after 3 years of use :)
After 3 years of use you should have be used to the keymap and not have to look at the keys anyway.
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a couple possibilities off the top of my head, starting with actually working with other vendors, so it's not only them making them. Work on the whole supply chain - including recycling - for these things. do a "buy one give one" type deal to seed the hardware more widely. write a bunch of software for the device so there's even more of a draw to get one of these. develop an ARM board. All of these projects are non-t…
Lol wut? You want VCs to fund the creation/incubation of a laptop mainboard spec using equity from Framework just to spoon-feed other vendors into competition? I mean it kinda seems like the onus is on new vendors to work off the published specs and and with Framework as interest grows to codify a standard so they can be relevant. I’m sure Framework would love that. It’s really dumb to see people advocating for Frame…
For me, all of their openness kind of falls flat when you realize it's just another locked-in laptop ecosystem... It's great that they publish their specs, but that doesn't mean anything to me if they're the only ones making them.
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#146I'm waffling on my pre-order because I realized Frameworks don't have touchscreens, which I really enjoy when reading long articles. Kind of wild that they offer all these other features that seem very niche, but a common one these days is absent.
I'm genuinely interested in this use case. Do you keep the laptop on a desk when you're using the touchscreen? I don't think framework has hinges that convert it into a tablet-esque form, so I'm kinda flummoxed on how a touchscreen is useful for long articles. Something about reaching out and touching the screen seems laborious compared to scrolling on a mousewheel or swiping slightly on a trackpad (or even just pres…
It's actually very nice, you can scoot the laptop closer to you while lounging on a couch, and scroll the screen naturally with your thumb. Again, reading long articles is my common use-case, but I've occasionally used it to read through large source files as well.
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#147That's all great, but Framework team, when do you finally extend support for the rest of European countries?
Indeed,
I have been on Framework mailing list for 2 years and hate seeing these updates.
It seems silly that Framework can't figure some way to ship orders to the rest of EU.
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Expect the unexpected. It doesn't have to be a rational known ask. We are Hackers. We want to be ready for whatever. That day when there's a 4 screen display wall? Ready. Connecting to a thunderbolt NAS, a display, a desktop, and our friends laptop? Ready. "What is the use case" is the deadening soul sucking most un Hackerly thing to ask. Computers are amazing general purpose machines & we celebrate their flexible ut…
"Why?" is a very properly hackerly question.
Agreed. Generally best used against systems & plans. Wanting to know how something ticks.
Using it as a cudgel against open frontiers happens too. I guess it's more a disposition of the person here. Personally I find that stark conservatism to be heinously ugly.
What is sometimes a very fine question, especially if someone is struggling to get to success. Recognizing the other cases though, where there are unknowns & where we want to have Postel'lian possibilities, where we want many small pieces we can loosely couple, where we aren't just trying to make it through right now but are trying to work for longer answers... I think the "What is the use case" is often a complete rejection of open thinking, is the mind closing.
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I think AMD already acquired Xilinx?
Yes. But the question remains of when & how we see Xilinx technologies/capabilities boost AMD's core businesses.
Exactly. Just like we can see Nvidia’s acquisition of Mellanox starting to make sense now that we see Nvidia shipping entire clusters of hundreds or thousands of GPUs connected through InfiniBand, I’m waiting for what AMD’s acquisition of Xilinx has to offer.
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I'm genuinely interested in this use case. Do you keep the laptop on a desk when you're using the touchscreen? I don't think framework has hinges that convert it into a tablet-esque form, so I'm kinda flummoxed on how a touchscreen is useful for long articles. Something about reaching out and touching the screen seems laborious compared to scrolling on a mousewheel or swiping slightly on a trackpad (or even just pres…
Not OP, but I enjoy touchscreens on laptops also. I can get by without it. I see it as a nice to have but not a necessity. It won't make or break a decision when choosing a laptop for me. Here are some reasons I like it when I do have a laptop with it: - I think it's a better zoom experience. You can get a similar experience with a touchpad, but it's just nicer to touch the screen where you are pinch zooming IMO. - S…
Wow some other great use cases - thanks for mentioning these. I do also use the touchscreen when playing among us, it gives the game a more tactile feel, while you still have a full keyboard for the requisite chatting.