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Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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Why not both? The modern dismantling of antitrust regulation and enforcement is a significant driver of both. It's gotten way worse now than ever, to the point where private equity firms like Vanguard and Blackrock can be the biggest shareholders in direct duopoly competitors (KO and PEP are an example), or where investors and producers are permitted to fully horizontally and vertically integrate (AMZN is an example)…

You cited Amazon's vertical integration as a reason they need to be broken up, however Amazon retail's margins vary between 0 and 5%. Walmart on the other hand is more like 25%. Amazon is the best middle man that customers could ever want. They clip the ticket an almost imperceptible amount. The stores you'd probably promote, small mom and pop stores, generally have 50%+ margins. Who exactly is gouging customers? It'…

> The stores you'd probably promote, small mom and pop stores, generally have 50%+ margins.

Yeah, no, they really don't.

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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A few people have said that the response to inflation will be price controls eventually. Reviewing this article and comment section has convinced me that it is politically possible. Perhaps it’s a good time to remind people that inflation has happened many times in human history, as has price controls, and that the outcome will be shortages.

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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Taxing land would increase rent and therefore increase food prices.

Rents would go down , actually. Demand for housing would remain the same. Short term it would create a strong incentive not to hoard property. If it's not rented out it is losing money. Landlords would scramble to rent them out - driving up supply. Medium term rents would decrease, too. A land tax would create a powerful incentive to yield low density housing in high value locations to be redeveloped into high densit…

> Rents would go down, actually.

The idea that you can tax an input more and reduce prices is ridiculous on its face.

> Demand for housing would remain the same.

Also unlikely. Basically any change in local conditions will impact housing demand one way or another. The global number of people needing housing may not change, but that’s not housing demand (globally or locally).

> Short term it would create a strong incentive not to hoard property. If it's not rented out it is losing money.

Property tax already does that, and most places have properry taxes. Also, the fact that property has non-tax maintenance costs does that. “Hoarding real property” is largely a theoretical concern.

> Landlords would scramble to rent them out - driving up supply.

Except they already do that, but higher taxes would raise the break-even price.

> Medium term rents would decrease, too. A land tax would create a powerful incentive to yield low density housing in high value locations to be redeveloped into high density housing - increasing supply.

No, it wouldn’t: housing demand already does it, the constraint is regulatory (zoning control) not the desire to build. Higher taxes on lans drive up costs without dealing with the constraint. Deal with the constraint and you’ll see development because more housing on the same land is more money for the landlord even with 0 taxes. All more taxes do is raise the break-even rent.

> What would also go down is property prices.

Nominally, but the cost of ownership would stay the same or be higher, some of it moving from purchase price to taxes.

> It would kill all political will to fight redevelopment too.

No, the political will to kill redevelopment would just also be political will to kill the taxes.

> There would be no point fighting to declare a launderette historic to prevent it from being turned into apartments.

There’s no financial case for that now, and higher land taxes wouldn’t erase nonfinancial political motives.

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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Unless you tax land. Nobody manufactures that for profit but profit handsomely from it they do.

Taxing land would increase rent and therefore increase food prices.

Taxing land doesn't increase rent; it's an inelastic good with greater demand than supply. See Ricardo's Law of Rent, Henry George, or basically any analysis of land tax (or indeed, taxing any monopoly good). The incidence of land tax is well known to not fall on the tenant.

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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A few people have said that the response to inflation will be price controls eventually. Reviewing this article and comment section has convinced me that it is politically possible. Perhaps it’s a good time to remind people that inflation has happened many times in human history, as has price controls, and that the outcome will be shortages.

Right, the dynamic is that high prices are due largely to shortages. Increasing supply requires investment, so yes price controls would reduce profits, but at the cost of curtailing investment which will sustain shortages and high prices for longer.

It's certainly not great that profits have spiked, a chunk of that will get skimmed off for sure, but profits also do stimulate investment. The government can help by adjusting tax rates and incentives, but the best way to do that here is by encouraging investment not penalising profits. We want that money going to the right places for sure, but the money is needed.

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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Not if you tax low use more heavily than higher density uses and encourage building more housing supply.

> Not if you tax low use more heavily than higher density uses and encourage building more housing supply. If you tax land with higher taxes for lower density, then, yes, you’ll radically increase food costs.

If only there were some way to distinguish farms from not-farms…

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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Their argument is basically that while normally a company raising prices would mean that some of their customers move to a competitor, in today's environment there is an implicit agreement that every company will keep prices high. So are they saying that the free market is basically not a thing anymore because of covid, and no company wants to get an edge over its competitors by undercutting on price despite having r…

Things I pay a lot for: * Rent (they're all high; and can't afford to buy anywhere near where I work) * Food (prices are pretty much the same everywhere) * Internet (Cable's the only modern-speed option where I currently rent) * Energy / Gas - either utilities or again, the same everywhere I think most everyone else is in the same boat. I can scale down some of these a little bit, but they're all fairly __inelastic__…

All of them were sorted during WFH. I moved out to remote places and paid far less. I saved quite a bit on all of the above remote other than Internet of course. The economy is setup to extract your money from you once you've earned it.

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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post #141
post #98

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You cited Amazon's vertical integration as a reason they need to be broken up, however Amazon retail's margins vary between 0 and 5%. Walmart on the other hand is more like 25%. Amazon is the best middle man that customers could ever want. They clip the ticket an almost imperceptible amount. The stores you'd probably promote, small mom and pop stores, generally have 50%+ margins. Who exactly is gouging customers? It'…

> The stores you'd probably promote, small mom and pop stores, generally have 50%+ margins. Yeah, no, they really don't.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/887938/convenience-store...

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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You cited Amazon's vertical integration as a reason they need to be broken up, however Amazon retail's margins vary between 0 and 5%. Walmart on the other hand is more like 25%. Amazon is the best middle man that customers could ever want. They clip the ticket an almost imperceptible amount. The stores you'd probably promote, small mom and pop stores, generally have 50%+ margins. Who exactly is gouging customers? It'…

I feel we are entering seriously dangerous territory when someone is defending monopolistic practices because during the time of a monopoly consolidating itself the customers get a brief period of lowered prices that the monopolistic forces use to undercut all competitors.

Amazon is not a monopoly, and the second they raise margins they'll lose business to eBay, Shopify, Walmart, Target and others.

Do you think Amazon has 0-5% margins because they're generous or because it's a deliberate strategy to attract and retain customers?

Customers would scramble if Amazon margins were 50%.

Re: Why is inflation so sticky? It could be corporate profits

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post #58

Their argument is basically that while normally a company raising prices would mean that some of their customers move to a competitor, in today's environment there is an implicit agreement that every company will keep prices high. So are they saying that the free market is basically not a thing anymore because of covid, and no company wants to get an edge over its competitors by undercutting on price despite having r…

Why are prices controlled at all? Because as a consumer you can go somewhere else. If there is insufficient excess supply capacity we can't do that in aggregate and prices can be hiked with impunity. Inflation is always, everywhere, a lack of effective competition.

For almost all goods, price increases will decrease the amount purchased. If there's still insufficient excess supply capacity after substantial price increase and decreases in people's purchasing power and consumption, then the reason competition isn't lowering prices is because that's the actual market-clearing price where demand is equal to the amount that can be produced.

This can't be fixed by forcing companies to lower their prices since they won't be able to supply the demand that exists at a lower price, and attempting to do so anyway via price controls inevitably leads to empty shelves.

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