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Re: Laid off by Big Tech, then recruited for contract work – at the same place

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I think GP meant not noticed any such listings in the last 12 months, not that they were advertising a post with a duration less than a year.

I didn't think he was advertising, but I did misinterpret it as him saying only shorter term contracts were available outside IR35.

Ha, sorry, 'they' there meant the listings, not GP. Isn't English wonderful.

Re: Laid off by Big Tech, then recruited for contract work – at the same place

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Are you sure about that? My understanding was that the role is made redundant, not the person; that you can't hire someone else to do what a made-redundant person was just doing (of course it pretty much happens, but on paper/in theory it needs to be different). I don't really see how it makes sense for both to be true. And in your scenario, wouldn't voluntary redundancy get really weird? 'Denied - because you're qua…

When a role is made redundant (in the UK) an employer has a series of steps they have to make. One of which is, if there is another role the employee could do then they have to be offered it. They can refuse of course. In your voluntary redundancy scenario the employee is waving their rights...voluntarily.

Have to be offered it, or just have to be considered for it? As in, if there's a better qualified person available at the same price (or for that matter you're making two roles redundant and either of those people could do this one other role you have open, but you don't need both) do you really have to give it to the otherwise redundant person?

Re: Laid off by Big Tech, then recruited for contract work – at the same place

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I haven’t seen any company that will take contractors outside of IR35 at least in London for more than a year now. The risk falls completely on the company these days. IR35 is a very nasty piece of legislation it’s difficult to even hire remote contractors outside of the UK with it without going through an established firm.

Shorter than a year suits me. My goal with contracting is to have time off between contracts to have more energy and time to bootstrap some business ideas. It is a shame this legislation passed, I understand the concern about hidden employees/tax dodging but it seems they overshot a bit.

You aren’t getting outside of IR35 contracts in tech anymore even short fixed term ones (as short as 1-2 months), especially with any company that can afford to pay rates that make it worth while.

If HMRC catches you in violation of IR35 they can open the book and inspect any contracts over the past 10 years and retroactively penalize you. And by you I mean the “employer” in this case as in the company that hired you under contract.

No one is taking the risk today.

Re: Laid off by Big Tech, then recruited for contract work – at the same place

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I once worked for Amazon as a contractor with Insight Global. While it wasn't a bad gig, the culture wasn't a fit so I left. Since then (almost a year), every week I have been mailed a return box for the equipment that I have already returned. I tried telling my former boss but the boxes keep coming. How much money have they wasted mailing me return boxes months on end for no reason?

That's funny because one of my friends did a contract for them and never sent the machine back, and they never sent him a box or said anything.
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