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Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by piperswe »

kivle wrote: post #78
loxias wrote: post #57

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IME Firefox (esp with the right extensions, like autosuspend tabs) is very light on system resources. A bit more so than chrome. I run only Linux though. All the "websites that should be a program" (Netflix, Hulu, Slack, Amazon Video) now run great in FF, without my computer overheating. (though some of them might be on the chopping block if they don't quit blocking me from seeing HD content) I hear Apple does some s…

Honestly I do not think Apple does some special magic on Mac OS for Safari. I settled on Vivaldi (a chromium based browser with built-in ad blocking developed by former Opera devs). It gives battery life not much worse than Safari to be honest. Safari is very nice and snappy on a mac, but the extension support is extremely limited.

Orion has Safari-level battery usage and performance thanks to using WebKit, while providing much better extension compatibility and a built-in ad blocker: https://browser.kagi.com/

It also runs on iOS, even with extension support!

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by reitanqild »

For those who, like me, refuses to use Chrome but also doesn't want to support Mozilla Foundation (if I knew money would stay with the engineers I would actively support it), please look at LibreWolf.

Unlike certain other Firefox clones LibreWolf is a running fork of the latest Firefox sources.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by reitanqild »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #85
shadowgovt wrote: post #65

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And it's still fast in spite of that, which speaks to how far behind Mozilla is.

Part of the difference is that the modern web is built for Chrome. Even checking ones site or service with Firefox for functionality is a bridge too far, much less performance.

I think it has actually become better lately.

There was a time when people threw around "only works in Chrome" like they did with IE6, but for me it seems it has improved somewhat now.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by eastbound »

kej wrote: post #46
qwertox wrote: post #44

> As we head towards Manifest V3 migration, we are intently monitoring comments from the developer community to help inform our timelines. Here's some feedback: If uBlock Origin loses full control over what gets loaded and what not, I will immediately uninstall Chrome from all my and my family's devices and switch back to Firefox, after a decade of using Chrome as the main browser. I will then also recommend the excl…

You can just do this anyway, you know. Firefox is pretty great these days.

Firefox is so spammy and not better for privacy. It opens tabs all the time to advertise how much that big browser is taking care of your privacy, while begging for your email to upload your passwords to their server so you can [place minor feature here] reopen a tab on your desktop.

How do I know this? I use Firefox for porn on mobile, therefore didn’t connect it to ANY of my Google accounts, anything, blank state Firefox, imagine my happiness when PornHub greets me with “Hello [NAME] [SURNAME], would you like to sign-in with that Gmail account that you also happen to use for work?”

This single datapoint absolutely proves that Mozilla’s care for privacy is a legend. Like saying “A honest politician.”

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by jiggawatts »

reitanqild wrote: post #140
jiggawatts wrote: post #119

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Selection bias. Do you work in Silicon Valley, at startups, or ex-FAANG places? Are you a "Linux person" looking for work related to Linux technologies such as NGINX, MySQL, Postgres, Apache, etc...? Here in Australia it's a rare thing for me to see a Linux server. They exist, sure, but are generally in the minority. I have some self-selection biases as well, but I regularly work for large orgs with more than 10K sta…

> Selection bias. Do you work in Silicon Valley, at startups, or ex-FAANG places? Are you a "Linux person" looking for work related to Linux technologies such as NGINX, MySQL, Postgres, Apache, etc...? Here in Australia it's a rare thing for me to see a Linux server. They exist, sure, but are generally in the minority Huh, here in Norway, for big oil service companies, for government and electricity infrastructure, t…

Come to think of it, the only place I've seen a significant percentage of Linux was in an energy company in Western Australia...

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by adithyassekhar »

vbernat wrote: post #137
adithyassekhar wrote: post #129

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If anyone from Mozilla is reading, I want to switch to Firefox. But I used to have a Firefox account with 2fa and lost my backup keys. The best part they won't even let me delete that account and start new even if I sent a mail from that same email account. I don't want to create another Gmail account just for Firefox.

Add a dot somewhere in the user part of the address. This looks like a new address but it is not.

Thank you, I didn't knew you could do that to create new accounts.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by sgtfrankieboy »

capitainenemo wrote: post #64
sgtfrankieboy wrote: post #54

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Switched to Firefox for like 6-12 months, eventually moved back to Edge a couple of weeks ago. Had to open it constantly anyways. I couldn't get used to Firefox's DevTools and the JSON viewer in Firefox is bad compared to the JSON Formatter chrome extension.

Huh. I'm rather surprised you're comparing the out of the box firefox json formatting (rather good compared to chrome's non-existent formatter) to an extension. Are there no JSON formatting extensions for firefox?

Couldn't find any that were on the same level as the one I use with Edge.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by stavros »

iimblack wrote: post #128
stavros wrote: post #121

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Agreed, I have the same experience. I switched to Vivaldi lately because of tab groups, I want to switch back to Firefox because Vivaldi has various annoyances but tab groups are keeping me from going back.

Sideberry extension solves this for me

I'll try that, thanks! The issues I've had with tree-style tabs previously was that I use a portrait screen, so horizontal space is at a premium, and I can't afford a thick sidebar always showing.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by pieter_mj »

qwertox wrote: post #44

> As we head towards Manifest V3 migration, we are intently monitoring comments from the developer community to help inform our timelines. Here's some feedback: If uBlock Origin loses full control over what gets loaded and what not, I will immediately uninstall Chrome from all my and my family's devices and switch back to Firefox, after a decade of using Chrome as the main browser. I will then also recommend the excl…

MV2 uBlock Origin is already borked in Chrome, it can't uncloak CNAME-masked network requests.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by davidgerard »

tigrezno wrote: post #86
davidgerard wrote: post #81

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> bad font rendering would I be correct in guessing that you're using the snap? It's pretty, uh, garbage. The Chromium snap keeps having font problems too.

this is fun because the snap works perfectly on my machine, and it's fast as the native version. I think the snap version is far better than running it natively (more secure). A web browser is a hacker's dream.

I specifically mean the font problem, where the system fonts weren't making it into the snaps. Seems to have resolved in recent weeks.
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