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The Contradictions of Sam Altman

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Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

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How did he become so rich? His Wikipedia page does not have much details on this.

He was in the first batch of YC startups with a feature phone location-aware app called Loopt. Once smartphones came along, it became largely obsolete, and started to become irrelevant, but still got acquired under questionable circumstances anyway, enough for Altman to get rich: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3684357

From there he became a VC and ultimately president of YC.

Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I’m afraid of is that he and Ilya are not as good and smart as they paint themselves. And that a lot of key people had left (i.e. to Anthropic). And that by pure inertia they have GPT-5 on their hands and not much control over where this technology is going. I can’t tell for certain, but it does look like one of their corner pieces, the ChatGPT system prompt which sits at the funnel of the data collection had de…

> What I’m afraid of is that he and Ilya are not as good and smart as they paint themselves. This describes almost any venture capitalist or high-profile startup founders, as far as I can tell. Most don't realize their either privileged path or lucky path or both had more to do with it than their smarts. I really like James Simons as he mostly attributes his success to luck and being able to hire and organize smart p…

> I really like James Simons as he mostly attributes his success to luck and being able to hire and organize smart people and give them the tools they need to work. He basically describes it as luck and taste, despite his actual smarts and his enormous impact on the world.

Plenty of really smart people don't end up having a big impact on the world, and it's possible to make a difference without being an outlier in terms of intelligence. Everyone who has made an impact has benefited to some degree by circumstances beyond their control though, so even if someone is genuinely smarter than anyone else, it's a fallacy for them to assume that it was the determining factor in their success and a guarantee of future success.

Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

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post #34

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Who has time to come with this stuff?!

Most of it seems to come from /r/conspiracy, which unsurprisingly has a lot of overlap with another subreddit that starts with /r/cons*

I'd love to go through all the things Liberals labeled a conspiracy in the last 5 years that actually became true, but I don't have that kind of time today

Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I’m afraid of is that he and Ilya are not as good and smart as they paint themselves. And that a lot of key people had left (i.e. to Anthropic). And that by pure inertia they have GPT-5 on their hands and not much control over where this technology is going. I can’t tell for certain, but it does look like one of their corner pieces, the ChatGPT system prompt which sits at the funnel of the data collection had de…

> What I’m afraid of is that he and Ilya are not as good and smart as they paint themselves. This describes almost any venture capitalist or high-profile startup founders, as far as I can tell. Most don't realize their either privileged path or lucky path or both had more to do with it than their smarts. I really like James Simons as he mostly attributes his success to luck and being able to hire and organize smart p…

... and Simons would maybe be the most justified in overlooking luck, but he's smart enough to realize how random the world is. Peter Norvig also emphasizes the role of luck in his life. It's honestly a very good test of self-awareness and empathy, though there's def some negative selection against those traits in sv.

Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

#145
post #87

There's tons of extremely effective marketing around who this guy is, what he stands for - and so I'd instead look at what he's done. He took a non-profit intended to offset the commercial motives driving AI development, and turned it into a for profit closely tied to Microsoft. I think he's an extremely shrewd executive and salesman, but nothing he's done suggests any altruistic motivations - that part always seems…

He didn’t take equity in OpenAi. Does that suggest altruism?

Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

#146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I’m afraid of is that he and Ilya are not as good and smart as they paint themselves. And that a lot of key people had left (i.e. to Anthropic). And that by pure inertia they have GPT-5 on their hands and not much control over where this technology is going. I can’t tell for certain, but it does look like one of their corner pieces, the ChatGPT system prompt which sits at the funnel of the data collection had de…

I'm sure they are both pretty smart, but if anything that makes their apparent monopoly more concerning.

Monopoly over what?

Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

#147
post #87

There's tons of extremely effective marketing around who this guy is, what he stands for - and so I'd instead look at what he's done. He took a non-profit intended to offset the commercial motives driving AI development, and turned it into a for profit closely tied to Microsoft. I think he's an extremely shrewd executive and salesman, but nothing he's done suggests any altruistic motivations - that part always seems…

He also invited peter theil to YC and made his first millions selling the personal data of Loopt users to low income credit card vultures. Also … Worldcoin?

Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

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Sama He stuck to the 99.9% gamble of setting money on fire that were startups and navigated to the big time(tm). Also, he helped lift Clerky, Triplebyte, YC, and may others pre, during, and post Loopt. Not many people (or no one) "deserves" success, but Sama brings a healthy dose of goodwill wherever he goes.

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Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

#149

> OpenAI and Microsoft also created a joint safety board, which includes Mr. Altman and Microsoft Chief Technology Officer Kevin Scott, that has the power to roll back Microsoft and OpenAI product releases if they are deemed too dangerous. what a joke. find me one instance where the ceo of a company picked public interest/safety over profits when there was no regulatory oversight?

Do people really think AI will go haywire like in the Hollywood movies?

I don't think it's about AI going haywire, more about how the technology will be used by people for nefarious purposes.

Re: The Contradictions of Sam Altman

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> OpenAI and Microsoft also created a joint safety board, which includes Mr. Altman and Microsoft Chief Technology Officer Kevin Scott, that has the power to roll back Microsoft and OpenAI product releases if they are deemed too dangerous. what a joke. find me one instance where the ceo of a company picked public interest/safety over profits when there was no regulatory oversight?

Do people really think AI will go haywire like in the Hollywood movies?

I don't for one, but I still think there could be legitimate safety concerns. LLMs are unpredictable, and the possibility for misinformation in pitching them as search aggregators is pretty large. Disinformation can have, and previously has had, genuinely dangerous effects.
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