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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

I'm very curious why people prefer AMD chips (I've never used one), would you share why do you and/or people you know like AMD so much?

AMD CPUs often offer high performance at a lower cost than Intel's equivalent offerings.

But some people just like supporting the underdog.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Does it mean I can finally get a high end laptop without a discrete gpu?

Not really. The 7040 series is good, but its not dGPU class like an M1/M2 Max. I think AMD has been scared to make one because OEMs won't want it.

Not OP, but in my case, I'd love an HS part without a dGPU. I'm typing this on a 5650U and its integrated GPU is overkill for what I do. Hell, until a year ago, I used to daily drive an i5-6500 with an HD530 with a 4k display and I never felt limited by the GPU.

But I do use the CPU from time to time, so a beefier part would be useful. I would rather not pay for a dGPU which I'd use maybe 1% of the time, and which would cost more and weigh more and possibly be a PITA to manage under Linux.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

#143

Quick summary for those couldn't watch the livestream/load the website. - New Framework laptops are available using Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7040 series. - New 61Wh battery, new matte display option & a Cooler Master mainboard case for $39. - New 16 inch Framework laptop. Allows you to have a number pad or not, up to you and customizable. If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs tha…

> If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs that connect to the 16 inch laptop.

They are checking all my boxes now. Outstanding.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Wow RPI-based QMK-enabled input modules. That is something else.

QMK sounds like the keyboard thing. What things can you do with an arm chip sending input to a laptop? Imagination failure here.

Programmable per-key remapping, layered modifiers that you can toggle per app or workflow (ie. quick language layout swaps, temporary low-level remaps for games that don't support remapping, Blender/Photoshop/editor-specific remaps for personal ergonomics, etc.). Tap-hold functions to send different keycodes or modifiers when you tap vs. hold down a key, often used for home-row mods that move modifier keys into the home row when you hold, say, an HJKL key.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

#145

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

I'm very curious why people prefer AMD chips (I've never used one), would you share why do you and/or people you know like AMD so much?

AMD have been thrashing Intel in performance, thermals and battery life for several years now. Intel are also a rather unpleasant company, I'll happily go with a competitor whenever it makes sense.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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I would guess figuring out payment, shipping, returns, refunds, warranty...

..., taxes, consumer protection laws, ... It's probably harder being a US company selling into each EU country than it is for an EU-based company to sell to the rest of the EU and also the US, too? The alternative would be not selling directly to consumer, using some intermediary like Amazon or whatever.

I don't think is that harder. Also, my Framework(bought in Austria and than shipped it to Romania - still in EU) was actually sold by a company registered in Germany.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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I'm still waiting for a touchscreen version. Once that is ready I can't wait to get one!

When they mentioned a new hinge I got my hopes up for a tent/360 hinge and top-cover option for a touchscreen. But it's just a heavier-weight version of the existing hinge.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

#148

Quick summary for those couldn't watch the livestream/load the website. - New Framework laptops are available using Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7040 series. - New 61Wh battery, new matte display option & a Cooler Master mainboard case for $39. - New 16 inch Framework laptop. Allows you to have a number pad or not, up to you and customizable. If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs tha…

Matte display yay! I missed that a lot on the MBP. Seems like they still want to bundle a windows license, I never understand this, do MS pay OEMs to do this?

I passed the Windows license through to a VM on mine. Not that I do much with it, but it does activate.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Already a thing? And is hardware the limiting thing here? Not the terrible arm OSes? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/02/lenovo-announces-the...

Arm on linux works pretty well.

And Framework already ships a 13" model and parts with Chromebook certification, which has great ARM support.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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The customization goes further than just yes/no to the number pad. Looks like a whole "Input Module system" that could open up opportunities for different keyboard designs (DVORAK, various locales, maybe different switches?). I love this idea, excited to see what folks do with it. Makes me think of Apple's Touchbar nonsense -- why force a number pad, or a second touchscreen on folks who don't want one? Such a good it…

https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/qmk_firmware If this is anything to go off of, then it seems like they are going to support embedding full QMK enabled input devices. Extremely exciting!

Indeed! They just keep doing good things (and doing them well from what I read)
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