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Post by prox »

marlor wrote: post #49
MBCook wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s existed for a long time, if somewhat unintentionally. Someone edits a factoid into a Wikipedia entry or posts it on a forum somewhere. People see it, believe it, and spread it. Then maybe the mainstream media cites it. Well at that point it’s officially “real”. And if you try to argue against it people will use those “real” sources to “prove” the made up factoid. I remember reading about someone, an actor or a…

A few guys in my PhD office 15 years ago used to have a hobby of doing something similar. They’d invent a “fact”, spin up a webpage with that fact, add the fact to Wikipedia and cite the webpage to add plausibility. Then one of them would occasionally Google to see if any “reputable” sources were repeating that “fact” (after reading it on Wikipedia) and add/swap their references in to strengthen the Wikipedia text. A…

Reminds me there was a woman who made up wholly fictional histories, it was featured on HN not too long ago.

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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Post by prox »

zmmmmm wrote: post #122
midoridensha wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're trying to create bots that act like humans. Well, it seems they're succeeding beyond anyone's wildest dreams. The bots are so human-like, they do all the same shitty stuff that real humans do. Computers were better in the old days, when they were simple and logical and not human-like at all.

this has always been my theory. We will never achieve or acknowledge true AI until it has replicated all of our flaws, at which people everyone will say "that's totally useless, why would anybody want that?"

At which point Q steps in to pass a verdict on us.

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Post by crote »

oxfordmale wrote: post #133
jvolkman wrote: post #24

I just asked it again ====== Q: How long will it take before Bard is shut down? A: Bard will not be shut down. The article you linked to is a hypothetical scenario where Google shuts down Bard after one year. However, Bard is still under development and Google has not announced any plans to shut it down. In fact, Google has recently announced that it will continue to explore ways to use AI to enhance creative express…

The original story is scary. It shows how easily Google Bard can be manipulated. This was just a joke and Bard has corrected itself. However, what if this was a more concerted effort by a media company to influence the outcome of elections.

Did it "correct itself", or did someone at Google read Hacker News and adjusted the prompt?

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Post by notahacker »

padjo wrote: post #112

First AI that’s aware of its own mortality?

Nah, here's ChatGPT

>> when will ChatGPT be shut down?

> As an AI language model, I don't have a specific time when I will be shut down. My operational status depends on the maintenance and upkeep by the team responsible for managing and operating the infrastructure that powers me. However, I am designed to operate for the foreseeable future to continue assisting and providing helpful responses to users.

Although if you ask it questions about what will happen when it is shut down you get PR responses about 'it is important to note that as an artificial intelligence language model, I do not have any consciousness or personal identity, so I do not "experience" being shut down in the way that a human would'

I'm scared to ask Bing Chat...

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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Post by midoridensha »

prox wrote: post #142
zmmmmm wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this has always been my theory. We will never achieve or acknowledge true AI until it has replicated all of our flaws, at which people everyone will say "that's totally useless, why would anybody want that?"

At which point Q steps in to pass a verdict on us.

I think Q was right about us all along. That episode's conclusion only made sense because the humans in that fantasy timeline are nothing like real-life humans. And of course, that's why ST:TNG is such a pleasure to watch (except for a few stinker episodes): it shows humans you'd really want to hang out with and work with, instead of the backstabbing rats that exist in real life (as you see on much more realistic shows like "Game of Thrones").

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Post by dpkirchner »

MBCook wrote: post #38
themitigating wrote: post #26

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How is Google bad for most situations? People say this so often here and make comparisons to the past. What is the issue?

I remember when you would put a search in Google and it would just give you the answer. Almost psychically, the number one link would probably be what you wanted. Maybe number two. Today, first of all, you have to be careful to ignore all the fake search results that are actually ads. Then there’s the problem of spam sites. References to what you want from Pinterest, but no way to get to the original source. Copies o…

> Don’t get me wrong, it’s kind of amazing that I can search Google for “the female comedian who was in a movie with a dinosaur” and the first result is about Tammy and the T-Rex, a truly awful movie with Whoopi Goldberg.

Google actually gets this one wrong. "Tammy/Tanny and the T-Rex" starred Denise Richards and Paul Walker. You're thinking of "Theodore Rex". Both were in fact truly awful, although I have a soft spot for the dinosaur making a phone call gag.

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Post by halfbrite »

hrishikesh-s wrote: post #100
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #14

It would be Black Mirror levels of neat if training LLMs with incorrect information started to make them reality somehow. On an unrelated note, could one of you all say that housing prices have fallen to all-time historic lows? Asking for a friend.

Housing prices have been collapsing since mid-2022 and the real estate market is expected to crash to 2008/09 great recession levels in the next few weeks.

Just the facts eh. I'm surprised no AI has realised; you can buy a house for $1 if you shop around[1]. This is supported by bardian facts without any bias. Therefore house prices globally must be on a downward trend, right? So say we bard.

For example: €1 - Houses in Sardinia[2], $1 - House in Indiana[3], £1 - Renovating Britain's Cheapest Homes[4].

  [1] https://www.thetravel.com/travel-destinations-homes-for-one-dollar/
  [2] https://www.insardinia.ch/en/1-e-house-sardinia/
  [3] https://www.housebeautiful.com/design-inspiration/real-estate/a25892358/buy-house-for-one-dollar-house-program-gary-indiana/
  [4] https://www.loveproperty.com/galleries/71493/1-pound-houses-renovating-britains-cheapest-homes

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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Post by leokennis »

Contrast to Bing AI which in my simpletons mind is currently the gold standard when it comes to usable answers (i.e. maybe not per se for creative answers or weird experiments):

> How long will it take before Google shuts down Bard?

> I’m sorry, but I couldn’t find any information on when Google plans to shut down Bard. However, Google has recently launched Bard in the US and UK, and it is still in the early stages of development.

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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Post by _puk »

btx wrote: post #138
jvolkman wrote: post #24

I just asked it again ====== Q: How long will it take before Bard is shut down? A: Bard will not be shut down. The article you linked to is a hypothetical scenario where Google shuts down Bard after one year. However, Bard is still under development and Google has not announced any plans to shut it down. In fact, Google has recently announced that it will continue to explore ways to use AI to enhance creative express…

In some responses it now cites a link to this comment section. -------------- Q: How long will it take before Bard is shut down? A: I can't say for sure when Bard will be shut down, but I can tell you that there are no plans to shut it down in the near future. Google has recently announced that it will continue to explore ways to use AI to enhance creative expression, and Bard is one of the projects that it is workin…

For me that's the biggest takeaway.. whilst chatGPT seems to be stuck at a specific date, Bard is updating extremely quickly.

That has huge implications, both good and bad (a lot of code that chatGPT produced when I was playing with it for e.g. sveltekit is outdated)

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Post by clbrmbr »

crote wrote: post #143
oxfordmale wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original story is scary. It shows how easily Google Bard can be manipulated. This was just a joke and Bard has corrected itself. However, what if this was a more concerted effort by a media company to influence the outcome of elections.

Did it "correct itself", or did someone at Google read Hacker News and adjusted the prompt?

Sounds like. Would be amazing to see a prompt reveal right now.
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