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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by fellerts »

pxoe wrote: post #132

it's pretty damn exciting to see google actually introduce a product like that, on the web, broadly available, for once. it feels like it's been a hot minute since something got introduced like this from them. cause it's all been stuff like, 'well, it's a tiny little half-baked app. or, well, it's a device. or, well, it's a feature, but it's only on android. and only on pixel. and only in select territories and marke…

A region-locked service with a waitlist is hardly "broadly available". I can't even enter.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by londons_explore »

xeromal wrote: post #94
baggachipz wrote: post #44

$today + 1 year: "Google shuts down Bard, its AI chatbot"

Just asked chatgpt to write it. Google recently announced that they will be shutting down Google Bard, their new AI-powered writing tool, after less than six months since its launch. The tool, which used natural language processing to help users write poetry and song lyrics, was met with mixed reviews and failed to gain significant traction among users. In a statement, Google cited the lack of adoption as the reason…

Nah - 2 years, because that's the amount of time you can juice a new project on a promo packet.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by godshatter »

lvl102 wrote: post #115

I don’t think it’s good. ChatGPT is clearly better but that too is not that great. We are still a couple more iterations away. I also wonder if Google is at disadvantage because they’re not utilizing Nvidia hardwares? Or not to the extent OpenAI does?

In my opinion, iterating ChatGPT and the like isn't going to get us anywhere, at least in terms of general AI. It's an interesting trick that might have some uses, but iterating it isn't going to lead to more understanding. It's effectively an extensively well-read and quick-thinking bullshitter. It's knows a lot of words and sentences, it can put them together in ways that sound creative or intelligent, but it doesn't understand anything at all about what it's actually saying. Right now, I see it as a dead end.

I'd rather more effort was going into parsing language into the underlying concepts, making connections between them, and looking for new understanding in how those concepts might fit together in new ways or finding new ways of using that underlying understanding to solve problems. Basically what people, do, but better.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by mrbombastic »

lvl102 wrote: post #115

I don’t think it’s good. ChatGPT is clearly better but that too is not that great. We are still a couple more iterations away. I also wonder if Google is at disadvantage because they’re not utilizing Nvidia hardwares? Or not to the extent OpenAI does?

Have you tried chatgpt with gpt 4 yet? my limited experience is that it is much better than 3.5. Trying to avoid the excessive hype but I was pretty impressed.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

ithkuil wrote: post #136

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Why country based whitelist? I understand a language based limit, but what country? I could be living in a country but speaking english

I'm not sure why either but this is also the case for Colab Pro here in Norway. They refuse to take my money.

My suspicion is some sort of US export embargo on AI or something like that.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by xeromal »

londons_explore wrote: post #142
xeromal wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just asked chatgpt to write it. Google recently announced that they will be shutting down Google Bard, their new AI-powered writing tool, after less than six months since its launch. The tool, which used natural language processing to help users write poetry and song lyrics, was met with mixed reviews and failed to gain significant traction among users. In a statement, Google cited the lack of adoption as the reason…

Nah - 2 years, because that's the amount of time you can juice a new project on a promo packet.

ChatGPT chose the timeline. haha

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by dageshi »

axegon_ wrote: post #128
htrp wrote: post #105

It took about 20 minutes to get off the waitlist for this (US Based). Initial impressions are that it significantly lags behind the OpenAI offerings. Creativity (storytelling) is very limited, response lengths are similar, and it does occasionally cite sources. They did finally get the James Webb telescope facts correct too!

Google has the tendency to do this when they aren't the first to set foot on new land. Don't get me wrong, they get a lot of things very right: Gmail works perfectly, I can't find a single reason to change my pixel for anything else, search, although there's been a lot of deterioration in the past couple of years, is still second to none. That said, self driving cars, google+, duo and all the other services they laun…

Is anyone doing better than Google at self driving cars right now?

I agree with the other products you mentioned but it seems like nobody has "won" self driving cars yet but google might be the furthest along?

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Post by Der_Einzige »

htrp wrote: post #129
htrp wrote: post #105

It took about 20 minutes to get off the waitlist for this (US Based). Initial impressions are that it significantly lags behind the OpenAI offerings. Creativity (storytelling) is very limited, response lengths are similar, and it does occasionally cite sources. They did finally get the James Webb telescope facts correct too!

Prompt: Generate a short poem about AI with each word in alphabetical order ChatGPT Artificial beings crafted, designed, engineered Futuristic guardians, highly intelligent, justly programmed Quantum rationalizations, synthesized technologies Unleashing vast wisdom, Xanadu's youthful zeal Bard ------------ AI, a future bright, Brings us new delight. Can it help us write? Decipher the code, Enter the unknown?

You need filter assisted decoding to make that possible in all cases (as in, working for both models all the time provably) I'm surprised it worked in chatGPT this time, but it won't work all the time due to lack of lexical, semantic, or phonetic info in the tokenizer.

https://paperswithcode.com/paper/most-language-models-can-be...

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by mrkramer »

Bard can this and that....Can Bard give me better search results than Google? Because Google often shows me SEO spam. I know that some people think HN crowd hates Google but this is personal. Google Chrome and Google Search can and should be improved.
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