That's an anticompetitive move. If you need to switch senders for some reason, the inspector is the only clean way to get an email's HTML into another ESP.
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Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
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Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually just opening the dev tools triggers it. The blacklist seems to expire on its own so I went ahead and opened the dev tools and did nothing more, reloaded, blocked.
This is interesting as something I've never thought about. What signaling to the server does the browser do when devtools are opened, and I guess I have to ask why is it signaling to the server anything at all if it is? Edit: i see that people have replied with answers to this further down the page
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I regularly instruct users to open dev tools to clear their site-specific cookies because there doesn't seem to be a way of doing this without clearing _all_ cookies anymore other than in Dev Tools > Application
Not sure what browser you're referring to, but Firefox still allows you to clear site-specific cookies by clicking on the button to the left of the URL (usually a lock icon since most things are https these days)
Vivaldi, too; so, I guess, Chrome?
Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#144This is worrying since I have accidently opened dev tools hundreds of times by clicking both mouse buttons when my cursor is near the bottom of the screen. I have a tic disorder (not Tourette's, because my tics are all nonverbal). One of my tics is that I mash both mouse buttons over empty space pretty frequently. I even go out of my way to keep my cursor positioned over empty space so I can mash the mouse buttons wh…
I regularly instruct users to open dev tools to clear their site-specific cookies because there doesn't seem to be a way of doing this without clearing _all_ cookies anymore other than in Dev Tools > Application
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Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
reading further down that page... "We retain a law firm in the UK to consult on EU privacy issues." wouldn't it be better to retain a law firm that's actually in the EU? hiring a UK law firm for EU matters is no different that hiring a US law firm, or AUS, or whatever non-EU country
While that is true in the sense that the UK is no longer in the EU, I don't believe UK law has yet diverged from EU law on any relevant privacy issues, so UK firms would still have significant experience in this area. A firm within the EU would be a better choice, I agree.
Also, a lot of international companies will just retain an international law firm headquartered in the UK for everything. That law firm will have offices all over the world, including in several EU jurisdictions, that they will outsource to when necessary to advise on EU legal issues.
Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I regularly instruct users to open dev tools to clear their site-specific cookies because there doesn't seem to be a way of doing this without clearing _all_ cookies anymore other than in Dev Tools > Application
Not sure what browser you're referring to, but Firefox still allows you to clear site-specific cookies by clicking on the button to the left of the URL (usually a lock icon since most things are https these days)
The same thing works in Chrome and Edge too.
You can also do it in Settings: type "cookies" in the search box and it will list both an option to clear all data and an option for site-specific data.
Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#147This is worrying since I have accidently opened dev tools hundreds of times by clicking both mouse buttons when my cursor is near the bottom of the screen. I have a tic disorder (not Tourette's, because my tics are all nonverbal). One of my tics is that I mash both mouse buttons over empty space pretty frequently. I even go out of my way to keep my cursor positioned over empty space so I can mash the mouse buttons wh…
Same, because sometimes I hit Ctrl-Shift-C* to copy something by mistake, which opens the Console.
* The copy command for many terminal apps on linux
Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#148Maybe they have a bot problem and their security policy is a bit too aggressive.
Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#149When you open devtools, by default it will try to load source code maps for your JS and CSS. Very simple for a system to detect the request for the map file. If that's their vector turn off the autoloader and try from a clean IP.
Unfortunately console.log(foo) calls foo.toString() if and only if the console is open, and there is no way to disable this in Chrome or Firefox. Edit: You can redefine console.log to be a noop, but that's also detectable.
I can't repro, how are you getting it to call toString?
Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#150When you open devtools, by default it will try to load source code maps for your JS and CSS. Very simple for a system to detect the request for the map file. If that's their vector turn off the autoloader and try from a clean IP.
TIL about source code maps.
...and how to disable them from auto-loading.
I mean, okay, I can see how they definitely have a use. But to try and auto-fetch js and css maps just because I want to have a look at the DOM?
Why not wait until I actually try looking at js/css? Or even until I ask to see the source map?
Prefetching never feels right to me. Even though I know GET requests are supposed to be side-effect free and idempotent (and if they're not, that's a choice by the server devs and they'd better have covered all the edge cases where clients correctly act as if they are...), it has the architectural equivalent of a "code smell" to my nose.