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YouTube TV raises subscription to $72.99, inching closer to cable pricing

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I enjoy watching sports, I don't see how playing a videogame isn't another form of "worshipping entertainment". I also go to the gym and cycle outside, people are allowed to like things

HN viewing videogames as more sophisticated or intellectual than TV is hilarious ngl. Reverse Boomerism

Nothing is funnier than hearing impassioned defenses of e-sports from the same people that are annoyed with the attention paid to 'sportsball'.

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I subscribed when YouTube TV first came out in 2017, for $35/mo. It was a good deal at the time and well worth it (since I didn't have cable), even though I didn't watch much regularly scheduled TV. When it hit $50/mo it wasn't a good deal anymore. Doesn't matter they added a ton of new channels because most of what is there is stuff no one (in my household) watches. This was the problem with cable, I don't want to p…

youtubeTV is better than cable though imo. The UX is much better and I share it with 3 family members so only pay a third of the price.

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I dislike price rises, and related I dislike paying for expensive sports licensing I don't watch. Sports fans should pay for sports instead of everyone subsidizing it. That being said, as someone who helped family move off of cable in the last year, this is only inching closer to cable's headline pricing which is largely a fiction. All the big four providers of cable/satellite have the following pricing: - Advertised…

The broadcast TV fee in Atlanta on Comcast alone is $20 now

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>It's solitary, sedentary, and passive. People probably said the same about reading at several points in history. It's about how you use the technology, not the technology itself.

Reading a language you are in the process of learning is a form of puzzle assembly and takes the mind to places it would not have other wise.

You can probably say something similar for any form of entertainment. You can always gain something from it (and that's excluding the benefit of doing something you enjoy).

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Music consumption itself is passive, but we frequently use it as a backdrop to do other things. Or we dance to it. I would like to think that the curation of playlists or mp3 libraries is considerably more involved than doing so with videos, on account of how limited in scope most songs/tracks are compared to video.

Agreed about background music, but I definitely spend time listening to music and doing nothing else, and the medium feels active to me in a way that television doesn't. On the other hand, I've been a musician since I was three, so perhaps the way I'm processing music is different from normal. One facet might be that I usually don't find myself focusing much on lyrics (if any), which means it ends up as a semi-medita…

I DJ in the local techno underground and produce it as a hobby, music is a very active and deliberate activity for me. That there are so many different ways to engage with it is part of why I don't lump it in the same bucket as TV.

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Music consumption itself is passive, but we frequently use it as a backdrop to do other things. Or we dance to it. I would like to think that the curation of playlists or mp3 libraries is considerably more involved than doing so with videos, on account of how limited in scope most songs/tracks are compared to video.

I’m sure if you drew a Venn diagram of “people who post to HN” and “people who dance”, the overlap wouldn’t be that large.

Are you kidding? I bet a ton of us go to raves or undergrounds or festivals, Burning Man has been pretty much taken over by SV tech dweebs, and I meet tons of tech folks in the local scene here, and that scene is just a tiny fraction of the overall picture for this area

If YOU don't, I would highly recommend considering it. Hell I'm pretty sure I got my COVID 19lbs because I couldn't go out and dance at parties when lockdown hit

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As much as I hate to admit it, I'll probably still pay it because it's just so much superior to other cable offerings(recording, multiple devices). And there's no other way to watch live sports.

*legally. There are plenty of ways to watch live HD sports.

IPTV providers are about as close as you can get to a perfect sports experience (TV/Movies have had a superior piracy experience for well on a decade+ now) and illegal IPTV providers leave a /lot/ to be desired. I don't use them since I don't care for sports but I've seen others use them and they are way better than the random "mirror 1, mirror 2, mirror 3..." sports piracy sites. However the quality is still iffy and you have to jump through hoops as providers are taken offline.

At the end of the day if I wanted to watch sports I'd just throw enough money at the problem to watch them legally. When it comes to TV/Movies, on the other hand, you cannot pay for the best experience (legally) which is really sad.

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Well, ok then, I guess anything entertaining is off limits. Is that the bad-faith argument you are making? Maybe I should have rephrased that to 'passive' entertainment.

The video game industry is quickly approaching the television industry. It has become simply an interactive tool for narrative delivery. Its simply a matter of time before the cancerous growth of capitalism gets its fingers into the media even deeper. Mark my words. Gaming is trending towards subscription service, and advertising will only find its way deeper into the way content is delivered until your sessions are…

>Gaming is trending towards subscription service

One of the reasons I'm glad Stadia failed. I don't think that continuing costs can be avoided for online multiplayer where continuous support is necessary, but single-player offline games would likely get swept up in this tide as well.

I also play way less games nowadays, and mostly for Switch, for which I prefer the physical cartridges. I'm honestly not even sure if disks are still sold for the newest Xbox or Playstation.

Of course, PC/Steam vs console could keep things from completely sucking for consumers. Hopefully?

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Yes, often when we meet folks they wanna talk about their shows. And I kinda inwardly groan. Don't people have their own lives and do things any more? Maybe the rent is too high to do anything but work then crash in front of the TV these days?

It's often nice to talk about things that you share in common - weather, kids, and traditionally TV have often fill those roles. These are the normal ways to break the ice and get to know someone better before delving into other topics.

Talking about our lives is generally more interesting than fictional ones. And if it’s not, take a hike or something. ;-)

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I’m sure if you drew a Venn diagram of “people who post to HN” and “people who dance”, the overlap wouldn’t be that large.

Are you kidding? I bet a ton of us go to raves or undergrounds or festivals, Burning Man has been pretty much taken over by SV tech dweebs, and I meet tons of tech folks in the local scene here, and that scene is just a tiny fraction of the overall picture for this area If YOU don't, I would highly recommend considering it. Hell I'm pretty sure I got my COVID 19lbs because I couldn't go out and dance at parties when…

My going to a rave at 49 years old would be…sad

But I do a run and lift weights regulatly

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