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On switching to Arch Linux

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Re: On switching to Arch Linux

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After 4 years of Gentoo I've switched recently to ArchLinux. Fantastic community, very rich wiki. The simplest Linux distro I have ever used. Everything works as you want -- zero debia/ubunto-nism. Rolling release just like Gentoo.

Also it has a very rich Arch Linux User-community Repository (AUR) + some AUR PKGBUILDs even install from Ubuntu's PPAs

Writing new PKGBUILDs is also very straightforward.

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

#142

I've been using Arch for the last 7-8 months and I think my love affair with it has already peaked. Everything written here is true re: learning about Linux, having more control, straightforward architecture, bleeding edge software, etc. But the instability factor eventually will bite you in the ass, and per Murphy's Law, often at the worst possible time. It's happened to me twice in this time span. My solution is to…

Frankly I'm offended that having a seperate /home partition is not the default on more linux installs.

I Arch Linux for my last semester of school and didn't have any problems, I didn't find it unstable at all.

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

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I've been using Arch for about three years now and can't imagine using another distro. The install phase is a pain if you want to get a full-blown plug-and-play ready-to-go desktop experience that rivals Ubuntu, OS X, or Windows. It's actually really easy if you just want a bare-bones system that boots into a shell and doesn't install any packages other than what it needs to do just that. Switch to Arch if you're a m…

I appreciate the minimalist philosophy, and Arch is on my todo list (it's even got a vm allocated). However, I seemed to have evolved into a more dual-pronged strategy - Full featured Ubuntu desktop, with relatively stripped down Ubuntu/Cent/OpenSUSE servers running in VMs. For my desktop, I still value 'just works' over minimalism. Things like Spotify just work out of the box. And any software I may want to play wit…

Some time ago I went to reverse way, from Arch to Mint Debian Edition. Just to try out other distro.

Spotify doesn't work for me in Mint. In Arch worked flawlessly. Anyway, YMMV.

Now I'm willing to have time to switch back to Arch and enjoy the minimalist (and speedy) desktop experience and the easy way to use bleeding-edge software in a (almost) safe way.

But all isn't bad in Mint. I like the performance of its kernel with the 200-lines patch scheduler. For any archer: any idea of some AUR kernel with that? Or does it get in mainstream kernel already?

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

#144
Arch was the very first distro I tried. I had no idea that there was "another" way to do it. Having to pay attention to the manual install helped me later when I was trying to figure stuff out. Highly recommended to jump in the hard way before getting pampered with something easy as hell like Mint.

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

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That's a shame, back when I installed it years ago (05ish I think) the community was one of my favorite things about the distro.

Yeah I remember it back in the beginnings, it was quite friendly. Now I see people get yelled at in #archlinux for having an opinion on x vs y which is opposite of what the majority of #archlinuxers think. The forums are like "not my problem fix it noob, here is half a wiki page"

I've never had a good experience with #archlinux, and the forums are generally quite slow. I do recommend the arch-general mailing list however.

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

#146
I recently got a system w/ a gtx580 that would be running the gpu 24/7. Was excited to try arch as I had heard a lot of good things about it and thought I liked the cut of their jib.

4 hours into install, I realized how much Ubuntu had spoiled me and remembered installing Linux for the first time as a kid and how confusing setting up X had been. I also remembered I had stuff to do so I installed Debian and called it a day. Cuda and nvidia drivers are frustrating enough, figured I'd pick my battles.

I suppose I liked the idea of arch much more than the practice.

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

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Disclaimer: I've been an incredibly happy Arch user for two years now (have it on all my home systems) which may indicate my bias. Whether I'm an "outcast" or a "neckbeard" is entirely for others to decide. What I can tell you is that based on your comment, you simply have never experienced the joy of building something from scratch. Rather than defend Arch explicitly, I'd like to use an example. I like bicycles. I c…

However, using this approach, when something goes wrong (as inevitably will happen with all machines, mechanical or digital) my reaction would most likely be be to look down at the problem, scratch my head, then walk my ass to the bike shop. You could just learn to maintain/repair the store bike, which has after all been designed to work by someone, and probably does most of the time. I've ridden bikes for years and…

You're entirely correct, and I regret that the negativity in the above comment brought that statement from me.

In actuality, there's no superior way of learning, and no superior way of getting into cycling! Take the tone of my comment as a reaction.

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

#148

I've been using Arch for about three years now and can't imagine using another distro. The install phase is a pain if you want to get a full-blown plug-and-play ready-to-go desktop experience that rivals Ubuntu, OS X, or Windows. It's actually really easy if you just want a bare-bones system that boots into a shell and doesn't install any packages other than what it needs to do just that. Switch to Arch if you're a m…

I appreciate the minimalist philosophy, and Arch is on my todo list (it's even got a vm allocated). However, I seemed to have evolved into a more dual-pronged strategy - Full featured Ubuntu desktop, with relatively stripped down Ubuntu/Cent/OpenSUSE servers running in VMs. For my desktop, I still value 'just works' over minimalism. Things like Spotify just work out of the box. And any software I may want to play wit…

Yeah, that's kind of what I do. I run Mint or Ubunutu, then run lightweight distros via VirtualBox(Lubuntu, Crunchbang, etc.)

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

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Why would you want to be a minimalist? Less is more. My Arch system doesn't inundate me with pop-ups to update my system with out-of-date libraries. It doesn't integrate "the social web" into my "desktop." In fact it doesn't do anything unless I specifically want it to. Some people are happy with everything and the kitchen sink. I don't need all of that, so why have it? It takes up resources, clutters my space, requi…

> My Arch system doesn't inundate me with pop-ups to update my system with out-of-date libraries. It doesn't integrate "the social web" into my "desktop." In fact it doesn't do anything unless I specifically want it to. All these things are also true with Ubuntu.

I'd count Ubuntu's Me menu as integrating "the social web" into the desktop.

(Windows is probably a worse offender with its Windows Live integration, though.)

Re: On switching to Arch Linux

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> My Arch system doesn't inundate me with pop-ups to update my system with out-of-date libraries. It doesn't integrate "the social web" into my "desktop." In fact it doesn't do anything unless I specifically want it to. All these things are also true with Ubuntu.

I'd count Ubuntu's Me menu as integrating "the social web" into the desktop. (Windows is probably a worse offender with its Windows Live integration, though.)

> I'd count Ubuntu's Me menu as integrating "the social web" into the desktop.

I don't see that on my Window Maker desktop.

(People either forget or have never been told that Ubuntu is still actually Linux, and can run all the same software Arch and Slackware and CentOS can run. That's the charitable explanation, anyway.)

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