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California cancels salmon fishing season

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Re: California cancels salmon fishing season

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Lab grown fish are one thing, but simple fish farms already work really well, the issues are that the fish don't eat a natural diet and are sicker and less healthy to eat. Maybe that's an easier problem to solve than growing fish meat in a lab.

Farmed fish are fed pellets made of wild caught fish though.

That depends on the species. Farmed catfish eat mostly soybeans and corn (maize).

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Is that some sort of racist comment? 30 seconds of Google search would've told you that he's a French citizen, speaking in the french senate in that video.

I was about to give him the benefit of a doubt, but literally 6 seconds in there is a French republic flag in the bottom left. No need to search on Google.

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There was a bombshell report about an immediate moratorium on crab fishing in Alaska, that came out of nowhere, seemingly. About a month later there was a (very, very quiet) report justifying the moratorium. The short version is that effectively scientists had been asking for reduction in fishing in the area for decades and finally the remaining stock in the area was so low it was critically endangering the ecosystem…

See also cod fishing in Newfoundland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_fishing_in_Newfoundland Cod stocks collapsed in the early 1990s, with a moratorium on fishing enacted in 1993. It took until 2011 for signs to show that the ecosystem was recovering.

My understanding is that the cod are not expected to recover to numbers previously seen at all, though. The smaller number present today seem likely to comprise a permanently smaller proportion of the new habitat that has formed in their absence.

I looked into this many years ago so perhaps that has changed. I hope so. Otherwise it means the Canadian Atlantic was irreparably altered by modern fishing in the blink of an eye, and the rest of the world is working hard at doing the same thing right now.

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I find farm raised salmon to be much much higher quality than the wild caught stuff. I think it's mainly down to the farm raised fish being killed and cleaned and put on ice all within about an hour, compared to up to a week in the gillnet, then another couple days in a slimy grody hold, then another day or two to unload at port, and another day or two to clean before it even gets packaged and shipped.

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Great news. I live in the area this story was filmed in and have been to that pro shop. I really hope they can weather a lost season and feel bad for the tough times ahead. But I’m happy and proud that our state is willing to take drastic measures to protect the resource. I hope that as we focus on balance and stewardship, populations of salmon, and abalone, to continue to rebound so that the fisheries are healthy an…

It's unclear if abalone will ever rebound to the extent of allowing for much harvesting. There was a brief, unnatural boom in the abalone population due to humans almost wiping out their natural predator: sea otters. Now the sea otter population is recovering and they take many of the abalone.

Withering syndrome also started impacting abalone populations around the same time as the sea otters. It's still a problem.

https://wildlife.ca.gov/Conservation/Laboratories/Shellfish-...

More recently, sea star wasting syndrome has killed off the predators that kept sea urchins in check. Sunflower sea stars are now locally extinct. Those urchins eat the same kelp as abalone and have out competed them along most of the California coast.

https://marine.ucsc.edu/data-products/sea-star-wasting/index...

Re: California cancels salmon fishing season

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In the US, you are required to discard bycatch under penalty of law. As a professional fisherman you aren't even allowed to eat it. They don't want to discard it, they are required to. The regulation nominally exists to disincentivize bycatch but anecdotally it seems to just ensure that bycatch becomes waste.

It would be better to ban the type of fishing that produces enormous bycatch and also destroy the seabed.

Governments and corporations lack motivation to cease this behavior, as there are continually available markets willing to pay for and meeting consumer demands.

One of those major issues that seems likely to drown with a million other major issues.

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Won't this encourage fishermen to continue fishing bluefin at higher prices? What a dark future: "Bluefun tuna is extinct in the wild but you can still eat it from Mitsubishi" And then: "Today the last bluefin tuna in the history of the world was sold for $20M to a billionaire." Something like that...

$20 million is a steal! One sold for $3.1 million back in 2019.

amazing and awful

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Humans cannot co-exist with nature, we have failed to leave any part we touched unspoilt, undisturbed, unpoisoned whether be it intentionally or not.

Exclusive large critical non-human zones should be immediately established if we are actually serious about conservation.

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It makes me ashamed to be human. Reading stuff like that, and thinking about what we do to cows, sheep, lambs, chickens, etc, it dawned on me a while ago that humans have no right to treat animals like they're just a bunch of cells to be treated however we want, like a serial killer treats their victims. But that animals are fellow beings, a lot like us in many ways. I didn't want pain, or someone to kill me, so I fi…

Humans need to start living in harmony with nature. We need to stop using artificial fertilizers that end up in the ocean and slowly suffocating and starving animals. I like oxygen and so do they. We must also stop spraying literal poison on the land and exterminating the insect population that other animals need to survive. We must stop cooking the planet and especially the oceans, and stop burning forests in order…

Humans cannot help themselves disturb the delicate balance in many natural systems. Corporations are the real extremists today and a difficult challenge our society faces due to the effects it has on human society and all other species on this planet.

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Humans cannot co-exist with nature, we have failed to leave any part we touched unspoilt, undisturbed, unpoisoned whether be it intentionally or not. Exclusive large critical non-human zones should be immediately established if we are actually serious about conservation.

At this point it seems to me like the best thing a Bezos-type could do is purchase massive plots of land and put ownership in some sort of permanent non-transferable non-development trust. Or buy land adjacent to National Parks and roll them in to the existing park. You get the idea.
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