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Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by D13Fd »

_frkl wrote: post #79

I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed by the mostly negative responses here, I wouldn't have thought this would be received as badly as it apparently is, by this here crowd. I haven't followed along that closely, but I dropped by their discord every once in a while, and from the discussions I saw I felt Kagi was as open as they could be, trying to communicate the upcoming change(s), why they are necessary, getting…

I'm happy to pay the money for search, but what's happening here seems to be Kagi jacking up the prices to pay for their other non-search stuff that I'm not interested in.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by D13Fd »

jszymborski wrote: post #6

Kagi is a bit of a HN darling so I know I'm putting my neck out here, but even after trying the trial, I'm not sure what the value prop is. I would happily pay for a search engine that provided good results, but seeing as it's ostensibly Just Bing under the hood, I'm not sure what I get that I'm not getting from DDG or MetaGer + an ad blocker. Kagi doesn't strike me as a privacy alternative given that all my searches…

I pay because their results are as good as or better than Google, and because they aren't in the business of marketing to me or selling my personal information. That's it.

All this crap with AI and Kagi releasing a browser is a distraction from that.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by D13Fd »

sorwin wrote: post #78
rippercushions wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to use DDG, but the search results were so bad that I had to !g all the time. With Kagi, the results (which are mixed from various services, not just Bing) are actively superior to Google (so much less spam!) almost all the time, and the only Google search service I still use regularly is Maps. That said, while I've been happily paying $10/mo for the pro plan for a while, I'm not convinced the 1000 searches/mo…

Sadly, for programming, I've had to use Google quite a few times lately. Their raise feature is nice, but always finding stack overflow (because I raised it) on top of ACTUAL documentation for a specific topic kinda ruins it.

>Their raise feature is nice, but always finding stack overflow (because I raised it) on top of ACTUAL documentation for a specific topic kinda ruins it.

So you changed the results, and now you are complaining because the results are changed? I don't get it.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by raiyni »

sshine wrote: post #118
rippercushions wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to use DDG, but the search results were so bad that I had to !g all the time. With Kagi, the results (which are mixed from various services, not just Bing) are actively superior to Google (so much less spam!) almost all the time, and the only Google search service I still use regularly is Maps. That said, while I've been happily paying $10/mo for the pro plan for a while, I'm not convinced the 1000 searches/mo…

Thanks for providing the link. I used 517 searches in February. For March I look to be using 700 searches. Seems like the pro plan will be sufficient for me.

Flip side, it's not uncommon for me to do 200+ searches a day. My lowest month was 900 searches but I went over 1800 frequently. Not worth $25/m for me personally at that point. I was sold on the idea of being grandfathered in at $10/m...

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by D13Fd »

hairofadog wrote: post #123

Tiny copywriting nit in case anyone from Kagi is here: > The new Standard plan pricing will be $5/month, with 200 free searches included. They’re not free; they’re $5/month. I know it sounds pedantic but on first read I thought, ok, so 200 free searches in addition to whatever you get for $5, which is… what? It makes it feel more complex than it is.

They are "free" in the sense that any searches beyond the first 200 cost extra. They should have just said that searches beyond 200 per month cost extra.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by rofrol »

crimsontech wrote: post #108
shepherdjerred wrote: post #48

I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…

When I saw this my initial reaction was to cancel, then I checked my usage with the early adopter professional plan it seems I'm mostly covered with 1000 searches a month inlcuded in the $10 subscription. Maybe some months I'll incur a small charge but nothing over $14 I don't imagine. I could also reduce the cost pretty easily if I'm honest. I could stop searching for a site and clicking the result rather than enter…

pathetic

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by soco »

threatofrain wrote: post #98
soco wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your concerns are valid indeed, and on top of them one must also think about what's the alternative. Because if you leave service A you'll necessarily use service B - I assume nobody leaves Kagi to give up searching. So the choice is between a possible bad outcome (Kagi) versus a known bad outcome (Google).

The difference in privacy I see between Kagi and Google is that Kagi requires me to have a signed-in account to search, and Kagi accurately associates more valuable information with a signed-in account.

I don't know how Kagi internally operates but for billing purposes I imagine it would be enough to record that you searched. Not what you searched.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by rofrol »

Aeolun wrote: post #105
threatofrain wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference in privacy I see between Kagi and Google is that Kagi requires me to have a signed-in account to search, and Kagi accurately associates more valuable information with a signed-in account.

I don’t think you can have both ad-free (e.g. paid) search and anonymous search at the same time. You have to pick one. And you can’t really fault Kagi for providing the one when the other is already “adequately” covered by Google.

cryptocurrency?

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by D13Fd »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #28

I thought people hate subscription model, yet there are enough people willing to pay a monthly fee for search that is only marginally better than free product? I'm really confused. At least Adobe products etc. are actually miles ahead of alternatives.

Even if it weren't marginally better, I'm paying to preserve my privacy and keep Google from monetizing my personal information.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Post by oidar »

raiyni wrote: post #132

And with that pricing model, I'm out. I do well over 700 searches a month usually and it's not worth $255 annually for me to pay for a search engine. I've cross checked results when I got stuff I wasn't really expecting and it was nearly the same as google anyway.

If you are already a subscriber, you get 1000 searches when the changes kick in.
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