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Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023

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Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023

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Post by nunez »

urbandw311er wrote: post #65
nunez wrote: post #41

I tried moving away from Workspace to Offi^H^H^HMicrosoft 365 last month. I chose 365 since my wife primarily uses a Surface and Microsoft products, which would make it easy for us to collaborate. It looks like an excellent solution for SMBs or larger who have a dedicated admin that can tend to it. For a nobody like me, it was a hot goddamned mess. Death by a few big cuts and thousands of small ones. These are the th…

> I tried moving away from Workspace to Offi^H^H^HMicrosoft 365 last month. What’s OMicrosoft 365?

the sound you make after Azure AD goes down again and leaves your email inaccessible

Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023

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Post by CydeWeys »

murphyslab wrote: post #32
CydeWeys wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no lock in here. People are free to switch to one of the many competing services. It's not a monopoly under any reasonable definition of the term. Of course switching is going to have inertia, but that's not lock in. Lock in is when you are contractually obligated not to change, or if the monopoly is shutting down all competing services (perhaps by acquisition) so that there are no alternatives. For a good ex…

No, you seem to be confusing "vendor lock-in" with "monopoly". The above isn't what is meant by "vendor lock-in". Here's a good explanation by Cloudflare: > Vendor lock-in refers to a situation where the cost of switching to a different vendor is so high that the customer is essentially stuck with the original vendor. Because of financial pressures, an insufficient workforce, or the need to avoid interruptions to bus…

Well, whatever you want to call it, it's not monopoly, it's not illegal, and it's not even necessarily intended; it's just the nature of things that switching incurs costs. By this definition I too am "locked in" to my apartment, because even though my signed lease only runs through next year, if I want to leave I have to incur all the costs and hassles of moving.

But I don't really feel "locked in" to the apartment. Maybe it needs a better, more accurate phrase. "Switching friction"? That more accurately describes the situation than "lock in".

Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023

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Post by CydeWeys »

benatkin wrote: post #27
CydeWeys wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no lock in here. People are free to switch to one of the many competing services. It's not a monopoly under any reasonable definition of the term. Of course switching is going to have inertia, but that's not lock in. Lock in is when you are contractually obligated not to change, or if the monopoly is shutting down all competing services (perhaps by acquisition) so that there are no alternatives. For a good ex…

No refunds. So it's literally lock-in for a year. https://support.google.com/google-workspace-individual/answe... (for individual) https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2736362?hl=en (for Drive) - I don't see it for Admin but it's probably the same. Here's one for Google Workspace Admin: "The Annual Plan charges you for the exact number of licenses you signed up for through a yearly commitment." The "commitment" ma…

If you contract for services for a year, and pay for that year up front at a discounted rate, why would you expect a refund if you unilaterally terminate the contract partway through? Just wait until the contract is up to switch services. You already paid for those months! If you're not sure you want to use the service for a full year then opt for the month-to-month contract.

Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023

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Post by rejectfinite »

nunez wrote: post #41

I tried moving away from Workspace to Offi^H^H^HMicrosoft 365 last month. I chose 365 since my wife primarily uses a Surface and Microsoft products, which would make it easy for us to collaborate. It looks like an excellent solution for SMBs or larger who have a dedicated admin that can tend to it. For a nobody like me, it was a hot goddamned mess. Death by a few big cuts and thousands of small ones. These are the th…

>- "OneDrive" for Business is a complete joke compared to Google Drive. Microsoft's offering is "here's a 30GB SharePoint installation". This was particularly troublesome for me given that my wife and I have a shared folder on Google Drive and an equivalent on OneSharePoint wasn't immediately obvious.

What?

All the end-user tools are on office.com

For OneDrive, yes the backend is Sharepoint, but a normal user won’t need to go there.

Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023

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Post by mike503 »

mike503 wrote: post #86
cutenewt wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Zoho for email along with https://workspace.google.com/essentials/ Works beautifully I do miss Gmail, but it's easy to workaround it

I am so confused (and unable to go deep on it at the moment) why I can't simply use this with $CUSTOMDOMAIN instead of my paid normal workspace.

Actually I see it now. It doesn't include email. It's just their office competition.
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