Live data from Hacker News

Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

nationalgeographic.com

141–150 of 185 posts

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reproduction isn't the hard part, from what I can tell! It's everything after the reproduction occurs that is tough.

I'm not so sure about that. Sperm counts are dropping: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-sperm-counts...

Maybe we just got better at counting them in the last century and they haven't actually dropped.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#142
post #71

I started aggressively filtering my water (Berkey black + white filters) during my last pregnancy, and I was amazed how much better I felt and how much more water I wanted to drink. I was trying very hard to drink lots of water to support the pregnancy, and found it difficult. When I started filtering it, it became really easy and I felt a lot better to boot. I still get pretty low key dehydrated if I try to subsist…

I'm with you until the fluoride bit. Do you have any medical evidence to suggest there's any issue with fluoride? Also why Berkey? They're extraordinarily expensive relative to alternatives, primarily for aesthetic gain.

I don't know if technologies have changed much in order to change this calculus meaningfully since I last checked, but here's why I like berkey filters:

    1. Although filters are expensive upfront, they last a very long time and are cost-effective as a result
    2. The large containers keep clean water accessible and at hand for things like cooking, and not just drinking
    3. The simple design makes it so, were something to go wrong, I could craft my own filters onto their plumbing once the filters are spent. A ceramic filter would be trivial to make, for example.
    4. Their filters last a long time so I don't need to frequently buy disposable filters and generate more waste. The waste from their filters is also minimal and predominantly biodegradable.
    5. The system is low tech. It'll clean rain water in a pinch with no electricity. I don't need anything special to keep it working.
    6. If the filters slow down, I can clean them to get them working better again. This makes them very versatile for off grid use where the inputs into the system might not be as clean as city water. This would ruin a lot of filters on the market.
    7. The aesthetic gains!

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised we're more stressed now than humans from thousands of years ago who somehow managed to produce plenty of breast-milk. They didn't have as much safety from pillaging tribes, hungry animals, they didn't have antibiotics, anesthesia or life-saving surgeries. They didn't have access to a grocery store a short drive away, or a fire department. Can all of the advancements in human QoL above be undone by turni…

Just imo, humans thousands of years ago didn’t have media that informed them instantly of every horrible thing that can, and does, happen. There were also fewer humans (which I find contribute a lot to my own daily stress). Maybe thousands of years ago humans were just blissfully ignorant of the dangers that existed?

I think there's a pretty good reasons the gods of myth are capricious and angry. It's not that people weren't aware of the problems of the world, they were just ascribed to deities.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#144
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think about how many millions of years were spent evolving the human brain, human instincts, and human child to adult development process to maximize the survival of children and hence our species. Now think about how psychotic it is, in light of that, to make small children sleep in a separate room from their parents. No wonder they have night terrors. Our society is utterly riddled with anti-natural facets like tha…

Having a baby around I can tell you that as far as human evolution goes it’s good we don’t have natural enemies because we’d all be eaten by now. Baby is tired: I shall make lots of noise so the predators will go away… right. Eaten I tell you!

I can only assume since we're all here that the survival benefits of incredibly loud infant cries outweigh(ed) the risk of attracting predators. I'm no biologist, but I can imagine how the fact that babies cry promotes formation of close-knit social groups to help defend against predators in numbers.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#145
post #71

I started aggressively filtering my water (Berkey black + white filters) during my last pregnancy, and I was amazed how much better I felt and how much more water I wanted to drink. I was trying very hard to drink lots of water to support the pregnancy, and found it difficult. When I started filtering it, it became really easy and I felt a lot better to boot. I still get pretty low key dehydrated if I try to subsist…

Stop using the white filters, they leech aluminum into the water.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#146
post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget the isolation; western civilization all but requires two income earners to have a "median" life. There's remarkably little time or money to raise a child. Median individual income: $40,000, poverty level for "replacement" families (two adults, two children): $30,000.

This, I think, is a perverse effect of feminism. Women wanted to be able to get a job, they ended up being forced to get a job, and men still have to work like they did before, so, who cares for the kids? It is an example of bringing equality by making everyone miserable, and it is not even equal: women still do more household tasks on average, except that now, it is in addition to their job. The winners in this stor…

> The winners in this story are childless singles

To each their own, but I'm not convinced they're winning overall either. Humans are, for better or worse, extremely driven to procreate and have families and communities. We're absolutely butchering those opportunities at a grand scale in North America, and so far it seems to be having adverse effects on our mental health. I don't know how this will play out but I have serious concerns.

While the option for mom OR dad to stay home with baby is nice, I worry that it's nowhere near the correction that we need.

I say this with the awareness that everyone wants something a little different out of life and this reflects my take on what that is; not everyone would agree at all. I'm certainly not trying to make a statement about what people should want.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#147
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife grew up in Vietnam. No fluoride in her water (she grew up on bottle water). The dental work is expensive and regular.

Out of curiosity, why would growing up on bottled water lead to terrible dental outcomes? I grew up in India, where the water supply isn't fluoridated, and I didn't see dental health that was significantly worse than the US. We probably got most of our fluoride from ingesting bits of fluoridated toothpaste.

Yeah it's possible that I'm conflating correlation with causation. But her dentist seems to think it's a factor. They coat her teeth with a fluoride paste and it seems to be working.

On the flip side her late 90s grandmother still has some teeth and walks around unassisted. I don't think any of my grandparents made it to their 80s.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#148
As a young father, I did not know how to bathe my little baby. I poured water over her face and she inhaled the water. She couldn’t breathe and turned slightly blue. I called 911.

I feel so terribly ashamed of that. I did not know the basic fact that one must not pour water over the face of a baby. There was nobody around me to teach me how to bathe a baby.

National Geographic must also write an article about dad like me who can’t bathe their babies.

My daughter is okay. She is a grown kid now.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#149
post #71

I started aggressively filtering my water (Berkey black + white filters) during my last pregnancy, and I was amazed how much better I felt and how much more water I wanted to drink. I was trying very hard to drink lots of water to support the pregnancy, and found it difficult. When I started filtering it, it became really easy and I felt a lot better to boot. I still get pretty low key dehydrated if I try to subsist…

Out of curiosity, what municipality do you live/ where does your tap water come from?

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

#150
post #71

I started aggressively filtering my water (Berkey black + white filters) during my last pregnancy, and I was amazed how much better I felt and how much more water I wanted to drink. I was trying very hard to drink lots of water to support the pregnancy, and found it difficult. When I started filtering it, it became really easy and I felt a lot better to boot. I still get pretty low key dehydrated if I try to subsist…

Some worrying Orthorexia vibes in your post. Could mean nothing, but keep an eye on them. Distilled water is not good to drink. It dehydrates the body, so you could feel the need to drink more. Being devoid of salts can cause also an entire set of undesirable problems if you are pregnant and drink it for too long. The concept of osmosis is very important in biology and disrupt it can cause undesirable effects. Of cou…

I appreciate the concern! I actually salinate and mineralize my own water, and agree that it's a necessity. I don't trust the pipes to keep my water clean, and I don't trust the local rocks to mineralize it properly either. I agree this take is unusual, but I don't think it's paranoid. On the contrary, I think it's realistic. Lots of pipes and rocks have documented problems.

Is it Orthorexia to worry about tap water? At least in my case, I don't think so. I'm a very unusual case in a lot of ways, but I'm very sure what I am doing helps me. Looking at broader society? I mean, I know we as a society have problems with chronic and widespread dehydration. I know relentless messaging to people to drink more water doesn't seem to help. I know in my case, the problem certainly wasn't in the motivation, but in the filtering. Maybe I'm weird, but wondering if this is more widespread doesn't seem like an unnatural guess to make, particularly when it comes to a water-heavy activity like nursing. None of this seems paranoid to me. Eccentric, sure, inconvenient, sure, unpopular, sure. But if this is all crazy, I don't see how.

Post reply on HN