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US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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"Not sure what the object was" "Shot Down using an Aim9x" That actually narrows it down a bit. Heat seeking warhead.

I just learned (yesterday[2]) about the rolleron[1], a stabilizing mechanism that prevents roll. It uses the airstream to spin up a gyroscopic mass. The AIM9 is the only use I'm aware of. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolleron [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfzj3rRIVU4

His long hair dangling by that spinning disc while he demos it... ugh.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#142

> Officials said the object was far smaller than the previous balloon, did not appear to be maneuverable and was traveling at a much lower altitude. "Not maneuverable" and "previous balloon" so is it fair to assume that it's a balloon as well?

Would a smaller balloon fly lower? Seems likely.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#143
There's a weird set of specifications with this one since they seem to be making a distinction between the balloon last week and whatever this is;

* Flying at 40k feet altitude

* Size of a small car

* Not manned

* Didn't appear to be maneuverable

* Shot down with an AIM-9X heatseaking missile

What could that be? Also, seems premature to assume China again when Russia is far closer to the Alaskan coast and just as antagonistic.

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post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A government that spends more money on their military than the rest of the world combined isn't at risk of bankruptcy from firing a couple missiles. We're at risk of bankruptcy because our debt is 31 trillion dollars and in June we won't even be able to issue securities to continue bullshitting ourselves out of cutting spending. Welcome to America, we're broke because we spent all our money on guns rather than infras…

We spend more on Healthcare and education per capital than almost any other country. Don't let people bullshit you on the amount spent. Now results on dollars spent is a different question with a different answer.

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Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#145
We merged all the threads into this one, since it seems to have been first.

We changed the url from https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/10/us/politics/unidentified-... to what appears to be the article with most recent updates (via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34745940 - thanks yabones!).

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A government that spends more money on their military than the rest of the world combined isn't at risk of bankruptcy from firing a couple missiles. We're at risk of bankruptcy because our debt is 31 trillion dollars and in June we won't even be able to issue securities to continue bullshitting ourselves out of cutting spending. Welcome to America, we're broke because we spent all our money on guns rather than infras…

We spend more on Healthcare and education per capital than almost any other country. Don't let people bullshit you on the amount spent. Now results on dollars spent is a different question with a different answer.

Interesting, didn't know that. I imagine it includes private/public spending as well?

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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post #114

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This is a very reasonable explanation for the otherwise mysterious question of why even use an (obvious, provocative) balloon in the first place, when China has perfectly good satellites. It may not be exactly what they have in mind, but I think it's the right way to think about the question - they are engineering scenarios which work to their advantage no matter how the US responds. US shoots them down? Play outrage…

Presumably if not shooting them down looks weak, then shooting them down looks competent. And playing outraged confers no advantage to China.

Maybe not. But honestly, they're so massive and slow and visible, and visibly loitering over sensitive sites, that they practically scream "shoot me down". There must be some advantage gleaned from it, because they can't reasonably have expected anything else to have happened.

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#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is their vaccine doesn't work at all, they don't have a strong emergency medical care system, thus it was the only real option for them.

they could buy western vaccine

And admit weakness?, autocracy doesn't like doing that much.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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post #33

> An F-22 fighter jet shot down the object using an A9X missile What a waste if $200k, shooting Chinese baloons. These shold be zapped using lasers.

Don't most f-22s come with a 20mil cannon? Wonder we we're preferring the missiles to just plain old lead?

It turns out that high altitude balloons don’t pop when you put small holes in them: https://apnews.com/article/268893fddde785d029d5a51b136951eb
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