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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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This is one of many, many reasons why western countries and social media companies should not normalise censorship re-branded like "fighting disinformation".

How do you propose western countries and social media companies fight disinformation?

Force is only justified in response to force.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

#143

Just like in China with the anti-lockdown protests. The people who are recognisable on social media posts from the protests have all been arrested by now. They waited just long enough to make people forget about it before they picked them up one by one.

This is why I stopped buying anything that comes form China. No more funding CCP.

If that's your hill, add Turkey, India and Russia to the list. Brazil we'll know in few days.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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I see plenty of racists calling for ethnic segregation in person, but online too? You sir, take the ridiculous prize today.

Since when is saying countries should have their own social media platforms "racist"? You think it was "racist" for europe to develop airbus? You think a nation should rely on a foreign power for their social media needs? You think a nation should let a foreign power control their electricity?

Saying nations should empower themselves isn't "racism". It's the opposite of racism.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

#145

Understandable. Turkey ruling elites protecting country from possible chaos and hysteria amplified by social media. Twitter is still US based company and if asked would not turn back on US national security interests. As history shows, US tactic is to destabilize countries and make them weak, there is no better tool than social media platform like Twitter. To use Twitter right now and to take advantage of this horrib…

I didn't realize that HN was included in Erdogan's bot army targets

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Erdogan's first speech was almost 2 days after the earthquake and he said "We are monitoring who said what on the social media and tried to provoke the people. Today it's not the day to go after those but we take notes and when the day comes, we will go after them". Just look at his face when delivering this speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doy38aKbMw4 It's like from V for Vendetta. The lighting choice is very…

This is one of many, many reasons why western countries and social media companies should not normalise censorship re-branded like "fighting disinformation".

Curiously, all the people that support such censorship in western countries are actually against it in this instance. Almost like whether or not they choose to support a policy depends not on what it does but instead on who it’s being done to.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Erdogan's first speech was almost 2 days after the earthquake and he said "We are monitoring who said what on the social media and tried to provoke the people. Today it's not the day to go after those but we take notes and when the day comes, we will go after them". Just look at his face when delivering this speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doy38aKbMw4 It's like from V for Vendetta. The lighting choice is very…

Erdogan and his ilk single-handedly made me hesitant about donating, that regardless who I donate to, they’ll find a way to line their pockets. I ended up donating, do the same, but Erdogan is a bastard man.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

#148

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For instance i still use 10y old Dell 14r laptop. When it became slow to run windows i switched to u Ubuntu and added SSD (not china made). I might have purchased less than 10 made in china products in the past 3 years Something is better than nothing

That Dell was still certainly made in China. And the SSD, while not manufactured in China, likely had components which were. It's practically impossible to avoid it.

IMO, the best one can practically do is to just buy used.

It's not 0 support, but it's a lot less than buying new.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Just like in China with the anti-lockdown protests. The people who are recognisable on social media posts from the protests have all been arrested by now. They waited just long enough to make people forget about it before they picked them up one by one.

Not to defend China, as the scale and the penalties are not comparable, however, some western governments also took a relatively hard stance against some anti-lockdown protests and we're learning government was involved in muting dissenting opinions on social media which in some western countries crosses the line into censorship. The government had embeds in social media orgs. Just imagine if during the Johnson or Ni…

"crosses the line into censorship."

Is not compared to being arrested and possibly jailed

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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This is why I stopped buying anything that comes form China. No more funding CCP.

Yup. I’m (trying) to do the same. Every little mindless purchase I used to make to fix some minor inconvenience slowly adds up to real harm for someone else at the hands of the CCP. Please stop buying from China. In fact, in recent times Lithuania has been a force for good against China, I’d suggest seeking out their goods if applicable to your needs.

Genuinely curious, what has Lithuania done to stand up against China? And any suggestions on potential things one would buy from them over China? I would like to buy more from countries and people who aren't whipped by the CCP.
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