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Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#142

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It seems pretty ridiculous to block those domains outright. There are plenty of legitimate government, tourist and local sites, which could at least be whitelisted. They've blocked UNICEF's link shortener: https://uni.cf

"They've blocked UNICEF's link shortener: https://uni.cf " Which I consider a good thing, why route links through the influence space of a country that is in a civil war with foreign mercenaries running parts of the show?

That's not their reason for blocking, since e.g. North Korea is allowed (tried airkoryo.com.kp).

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#143

Doesn't disclose where their blocklists come from for the child product, hugely overblocks legitimate websites, has no appeals process for miscatagorisation. What an awful product.

Can you provide any examples of legitimate sites that they block on their "zero" resolvers?

I'll answer the question myself by providing an example I saw elsewhere, which also illustrates that their "default" resolver differs from the curated "zero" resolver:

  dig @193.110.81.0 uni.cf a
  
  status: NOERROR, ANSWER: 2
  IN  A  67.199.248.12
  IN  A  67.199.248.13
  
  
  dig @193.110.81.9 uni.cf a

  status: NXDOMAIN, ANSWER: 0
  IN  A

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#144
post #127

> safe for children Ah, it's filtered. Someone decides what "children" means. Someone decides what "safe" means. There are people who think that not just under-16s, but almost everyone is incapable of making adult decisions. And different (responsible, informed) adults may come to different conclusions about what is and isn't safe. Curated DNS may suit some people, but I appreciate having access to the real internet.

Nonsense. You can choose which version to use, same with Cloudflare’s 3 different DNS choices.

And much like Cloudflare the lack of accountability and clumsy blocking schema of the "child safe" one is dangerous and worthy of criticism.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#145
post #138

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If it's not for you it's not for you. I always wonder about people who go to a French restaurant and want Pizza.

> I always wonder about people who go to a French restaurant and want Pizza. To be fair, this is more like trying to lookup contact information for the local pizzeria, and realizing to your surprise that the phone book you've picked up has directed you to the French restaurant instead.

Well sure, if you picked up the phonebook called "Pizza to French Cuisine" ....

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#146

Today it's a feature. Tomorrow it becomes mandatory by law. Loosing freedom with a big bang and a hole lot of happy people because they cannot compute. There is nothing good about things like that, at least on the long run.

This slope is very slippery. This is an optional service that you can use, or ignore. Your position is like saying that kids-safe movies are a feature today, but will become mandatory in the future.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#147
While I don't think it should be the only choice. Recursive dns does sound like the sort of service a government should offer it's citizens.

Authoritative dns also sounds like the sort of service a government should offer it's citizens. I mean, sure, it would suck compared to commercial dns, but at least everybody could have a name if they wanted.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#148

> safe for children Ah, it's filtered. Someone decides what "children" means. Someone decides what "safe" means. There are people who think that not just under-16s, but almost everyone is incapable of making adult decisions. And different (responsible, informed) adults may come to different conclusions about what is and isn't safe. Curated DNS may suit some people, but I appreciate having access to the real internet.

They offer three families of resolvers: the default one which as far as I understand isn't curated at all, the "zero" one which is curated against "bad actors", and the "kids" one which you speak of.

> They offer three families of resolvers

Yeah, I see. On first reading, that wasn't obvious to me.

But a DNS provider that can filter, and that also purports to be something to do with the EU, presumably imposes EU-mandated filtering, whichever server you choose. Or it will, as soon as it's ordered to.

I don't get why people use 3rd-party resolvers. It's not hard to set up an Unbound recursor.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#149

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This is not something from the EU as the organization, but from a French non-profit.

So in short, they're completely noncredible. I'm not sure who in the right mind would trust a random small company with their DNS.

They're not random, they're a French non-profit (created by cofounders of nextdns, btw). Why wouldn't people trust them? In my country most people use a DNS hosted by their ISP, and there are a lot of small ISPs all around. I suspect it's similar everywhere. How is it different?

And anyway, I trust a random French small company more than I trust Google.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#150
post #147

While I don't think it should be the only choice. Recursive dns does sound like the sort of service a government should offer it's citizens. Authoritative dns also sounds like the sort of service a government should offer it's citizens. I mean, sure, it would suck compared to commercial dns, but at least everybody could have a name if they wanted.

nope. What do you do if your gov says "no" to your website? via your idea that would be a simple matter of seconds
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