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Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by technomancy »

ubercore wrote: post #35
zackola wrote: post #28

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Rest assured that we will be adding the subway stops and various other awesome related data sets shortly.

Not to sound like a downer, because I really appreciate open source mapping, but that's the part where I think the costs, long term, will swing back. Google maps is deceptively simple, in that the javascript library and tiling is a relatively solved problem. Google has the best datasets, and the best large-data know-how in the business, so outsourcing things like an up-to-date transit location and route database is b…

I'm a big fan of OpenStreetMap in theory as well, but once Google launched vector maps with really solid offline caching for their Android app it made it a lot harder for me to consider switching. I know OSM will let you cache tiles for offline viewing, but the level of caching you can do with vector data is a whole different level.

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by vetler »

baddox wrote: post #95
dpcan wrote: post #10

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Also not on the topic of the article, but... I wish people would stop blogging on Google plus. Period. It's the worst reading experience ever on the iPhone - nearly impossible as the text blurs, and you have to drag the article around to see it all and then wait for the blur to go away.

What causes that text blurring on iOS devices? I've encountered it on TechCrunch as well. By the way, Hacker News is fairly unreadable on an iPhone because the text is so small text width so great. I haven't found a mobile interface that allows me to log in and comment.

Try Opera Mini. Not everyone likes it on iOS, though, but when you zoom in it will nicely reformat the text so you don't neet to scroll.

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by tintin »

kooshball wrote: post #96
jraines wrote: post #83

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Here's a userscript that makes HN show all subdomains. If you're in Chrome, just click on "Raw"to install. https://gist.github.com/1522657

Excellent. I was just about to write a Chrome extension to do this.

Why not ask PG to change it?

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by hessenwolf »

jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #39
ubercore wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to sound like a downer, because I really appreciate open source mapping, but that's the part where I think the costs, long term, will swing back. Google maps is deceptively simple, in that the javascript library and tiling is a relatively solved problem. Google has the best datasets, and the best large-data know-how in the business, so outsourcing things like an up-to-date transit location and route database is b…

They should merge efforts with other companies who also need alternatives to Google Map and create their own always-updated map navigator.

Or just throw a few bucks towards setting up a wholly owned subsidiary that leases out the api.

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by tomflack »

pilif wrote: post #56
dpcan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also not on the topic of the article, but... I wish people would stop blogging on Google plus. Period. It's the worst reading experience ever on the iPhone - nearly impossible as the text blurs, and you have to drag the article around to see it all and then wait for the blur to go away.

The blurring is a bug in Safari that is sometimes (I haven't investigated the exact cause) triggered when you scroll content below an element with position: fixed In the case of Google+ that's the navigation bar. Strangely, I could not trigger the issue when I was reading this post on my iPad. Now either Google has figured out the cause and found a workaround or the stars have somehow aligned correctly for it not to…

If you double tap on the column of text to zoom in and then scroll past the fixed element it will trigger it in this case. It happens to me on G+ and Techcrunch a lot. (iPad)

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by liotier »

technomancy wrote: post #141
ubercore wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to sound like a downer, because I really appreciate open source mapping, but that's the part where I think the costs, long term, will swing back. Google maps is deceptively simple, in that the javascript library and tiling is a relatively solved problem. Google has the best datasets, and the best large-data know-how in the business, so outsourcing things like an up-to-date transit location and route database is b…

I'm a big fan of OpenStreetMap in theory as well, but once Google launched vector maps with really solid offline caching for their Android app it made it a lot harder for me to consider switching. I know OSM will let you cache tiles for offline viewing, but the level of caching you can do with vector data is a whole different level.

You want offline OpenStreetMap vector maps on Android ? You are in luck today - take your pick : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAnd - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GpsMid - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapDroyd - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Navit

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by liotier »

ubercore wrote: post #41
soc88 wrote: post #40

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I wonder in which part of the world you are living. OSM has in most parts of the world outpaced even the best, commercial map providers...

Providence, Rhode Island. Does OSM provide transit stop and route info?

OpenStreetMap is capable of providing public transport information - see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport

See http://3liz.fr/public/osmtransport/index.php?country=France&... and http://öpnvkarte.de/?zoom=12&lat=52.50944&lon=13.393... for examples of OpenStreetMap public transport data in action.

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by sabret00the »

dpcan wrote: post #10
kooshball wrote: post #7

I really wish there is a way to show more than just the domain name next to the title. >Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish (google.com) is simply misleading.

Also not on the topic of the article, but... I wish people would stop blogging on Google plus. Period. It's the worst reading experience ever on the iPhone - nearly impossible as the text blurs, and you have to drag the article around to see it all and then wait for the blur to go away.

And there you've highlighted the issue with Google+. For some reason, people are so determined to see it work that they attempt to shoehorn it to be something that it isn't. Google+ isn't a blogging platform and shouldn't be treated as such. Google themselves own a blogging platform.

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by nodogbite »

jcampbell1 wrote: post #16

The maps do not show subway stop locations. That is not good when you are a NYC real estate company.

I've been using Streeteasy.com a lot over the past few weeks. Sometimes I get Google.com maps, and sometimes I get the Open ones. I always think that the Google ones look and function much better. I hope the open ones improve, but it's not there yet.

Re: Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish

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Post by fsniper »

kooshball wrote: post #7

I really wish there is a way to show more than just the domain name next to the title. >Good bye, Google Maps… thanks for all the fish (google.com) is simply misleading.

As much as I'm with you on this. This is not the place to discuss over HN's features or GooglePlus experience over hand held devices. Sometimes I wish we could move these discussions to some other place. I'm here to read and discuss about the article. But I'm welcomed with tens of comments unrelated to it. This is annoying.
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