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Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by friedman23 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #66
crypt1d wrote: post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

> More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 Mac mini On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software? I remember a decade ago being able to have a dozen browser tabs and instant messaging clients on 4GB of RAM just fine, and neither the web nor instant messaging experience has changed significantly enough to war…

Get ready for AR apps written in react native. The reason we have shitty inefficient software is because Apple, Google, and Microsoft haven't standardized on a performant cross platform framework other than the browser. Don't blame people writing software for not wanting to waste their lives translating the same logic to 3 different platforms and then maintaining 3x the code for the rest of their lives.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by highwaylights »

fckgw wrote: post #114
highwaylights wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but you need to pay the extra $700 for the Pro to add a third display unfortunately. There's hacky third party solutions to this, but they all involve giving questionable applications permission to record all your screens.

This has never been the case for the Mac Mini.

Yes it is.

The Mac mini M1 requires a displaylink driver to support a third display, which in all cases requires uninterrupted screen recording permissions to function. M1 laptops require the same to support more than ONE external display, regardless of whether or not the laptop is in clamshell mode.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by johnvanommen »

isolli wrote: post #102
coder543 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the plus side, with a desktop like this that isn't going to be moving frequently, there's really no compelling need to upgrade the internal storage. You could attach an external 1TB (or bigger!) NVMe SSD and you should be able to install macOS on that. You could just use the internal SSD as an extra storage drive. AFAIK, you're not required to use the internal SSD at all.

Is it realistic to have an external drive for photos that integrates seamlessly with the native Photos app?

I have a 1TB SSD connected to my Mac Mini M1 via USB3 and the speed is great. I have no complaints. It was about $80 from Amazon.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by [deleted] »

isolli wrote: post #112
coredog64 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That presupposes that the user knows how to deal with that. I did it for my wife’s current Mac Mini and never again. Photos is all janky and anything that causes an inconvenience is my fault.

So you're answering my question here with a no? "Is it realistic to have an external drive for photos that integrates seamlessly with the native Photos app?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34413791

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Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by luxoramonrising »

coder543 wrote: post #79
arprocter wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oof - once you bump the base model to 16GB RAM and 1TB of storage it doubles the price Apparently Mini RAM hasn't been user upgradable since the 2014 model https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205041#2020

On the plus side, with a desktop like this that isn't going to be moving frequently, there's really no compelling need to upgrade the internal storage. You could attach an external 1TB (or bigger!) NVMe SSD and you should be able to install macOS on that. You could just use the internal SSD as an extra storage drive. AFAIK, you're not required to use the internal SSD at all.

External NVMe?

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by simplotek »

Nextgrid wrote: post #66
crypt1d wrote: post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

> More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 Mac mini On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software? I remember a decade ago being able to have a dozen browser tabs and instant messaging clients on 4GB of RAM just fine, and neither the web nor instant messaging experience has changed significantly enough to war…

> On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software?

How would that work? You whine on an online forum over how bloated a software is, and in the process opt to be deprived of it's usage? Or would you continue to complain about bloated software while using it? Because none of those scenarios offer a compelling reason for the software maintainers to rearchitect their whole application.

Meanwhile, a 8GB stick of RAM can be bought for what? 40€?

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by gymbeaux »

jmull wrote: post #136
gymbeaux wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not trying to bash Apple in bad faith, but let's be real the $599 model is inadequate. 8GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD in 2023. There's plenty out there on the M1 Mac mini's 8GB being a bad idea even for casual users. I had an 8GB M1 mini when it first came out and returned it because it was swapping to the SSD with like 3 apps open (nothing like an IDE or Docker or Adobe X Y Z). I just find it humorous that you can s…

Many people use 8GB/256GB happily. It's like a faith amongst some people that this is bad, but the idea seems to lack evidence.

"many people" is as anecdotal as it gets. I don't know anybody who A) only needs 8GB/256GB and B) isn't better-served by an iPad or something similar. I think if anyone from Apple Marketing is reading this thread, they are laughing at how people are so instinctively buying into the entry-level Mac mini. The biggest value-add the $599 Mac mini has is that Apple can say Macs start at "just $599".

There will always be some non-zero number of people who either want or are genuinely best-served by something like the entry-level Mac mini, but that doesn't equate to it being a generally-good option.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by t3rabytes »

haunter wrote: post #128

>Dive into a multiplayer gaming session with SharePlay How many AA multiplayer games are available on Mac? Not streaming, no VM, no Wine/CrossOver. Legit playable games. I know Minecraft, WoW, Civ6, and CSGO. Probably there is more but clearly not the target of Apple and the devs either

No Man's Sky and a Resident Evil reissue are the two big ones currently that Apple is touting.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by FireBeyond »

chirau wrote: post #30

Whatever happened to the Mac Pro line?

I looked at the Mac Studio, and would still like to switch from my cheesegrater, as it's obvious where things are going (and in my home office, the Pro is a heater). Although now I suspect I'm going to hold off for the M2 Studio.

Apple is still doing its old tricks, though. Out of curiosity, I put my $13K Mac Pro in as a trade-in to see what it'd contribute (and to be clear, my expectations, I thought, were reasonable... was thinking $3K). 12 core Xeon, 192GB, 8TB, W5700X 16GB.

$3K? No, $1,050. Ouch.

Double ouch when you go to the Mac Pro store and find that exact same configuration is still being sold by Apple today for $12K.

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