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Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by StreamBright »

TrueGeek wrote: post #69
crazygringo wrote: post #65

I may have found the answer, and I've seen this before (it happened to me once). It's when a different spam site copies your content wholesale, and a search engine decides they're the "original" site, and you're the spammy copycat. Because if you put the headlines (in quotes) from two of his recent articles into Bring, e.g. either "Megan Smith explaining the General Magic prototyping process" or "Denialists, Alarmist…

What should you do when another site copies your content like this then?

This is exactly a perfect use case for a blockchain. In fact if people are interested we should create a POC.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by 411111111111111 »

irrational wrote: post #139
gary_0 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recently on HN there was "Someone is proxy-mirroring my website, can I do anything?": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33952114 It feels like the Internet is a more hostile place than ever for small-time websites. You get squeezed from below by wily criminals, and crushed from above by careless megacorps who want to filter out anything that doesn't make them money.

Nowadays, when I search for things, the results are often clearly pages that have come from a program scrapping sites and then merging them into one page. You can tell because the pages are not really coherent and quickly start to repeat themselves. I assume they are getting money through ads on the pages, though I never actually see the ads because of my blockers. I wish there was a button in the browser that I coul…

> I wish there was a button in the browser that I could click to report the page as spam to all search engines.

The spammers would use that offensively to destroy the original content creators with that system

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by cyberpunk »

beej71 wrote: post #106

I have exactly this problem. Beej's Guide to Network Programming is indexed just fine. Beej's Guide to C won't index. The automated tool says it's in violation of some unnamed rule, but I can't figure out which. There's zero SEO, tracking, or ads, and the content is educational and G-rated. All the other guides index just fine. I asked for a review and they came back with the same ambiguous message. Eventually I just…

Wow it's beej. I owe you rather a lot of beers, Guide to Network Programming is directly responsible for my entire career. Sorry for the low value post! :}

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

#144

Post by psychoslave »

kshacker wrote: post #122
gary_0 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recently on HN there was "Someone is proxy-mirroring my website, can I do anything?": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33952114 It feels like the Internet is a more hostile place than ever for small-time websites. You get squeezed from below by wily criminals, and crushed from above by careless megacorps who want to filter out anything that doesn't make them money.

No more hostile than real world, we are just finding out it is a reflection of our world, of course the difference being the global interconnectedness which magnifies the celebrities but also the crooks.

Well, it seems to me that none electronic outcomes tends to be slower and harder to copy at scale like digital material, doesn't it?

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by sethhochberg »

lelanthran wrote: post #140
daflip wrote: post #133

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i assume you have >0 backlinks to the site?

> i assume you have >0 backlinks to the site? I always wondered about this. What exactly is a backlink, and why should I need one?

Some other website linking to your website. The general premise is that if other sites with some known reputation are linking to you, you have a bit more credibility than a completely isolated site that nobody else references.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by psychoslave »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #135
crazygringo wrote: post #65

I may have found the answer, and I've seen this before (it happened to me once). It's when a different spam site copies your content wholesale, and a search engine decides they're the "original" site, and you're the spammy copycat. Because if you put the headlines (in quotes) from two of his recent articles into Bring, e.g. either "Megan Smith explaining the General Magic prototyping process" or "Denialists, Alarmist…

How do all of those Stack Overflow mirrors stay up if there is a mechanism to pull the copy-cat?

Maybe there is a retrocommission program to which they are affiliated?

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by michaelmrose »

Jensson wrote: post #103
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #54

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Is it even a ban? Your followers can still see it. People that don't follow that go to your profile can still see it. Elon says no one has the right to "freedom of reach" but never describes this concept as a ban.

If you get delisted from search and don't show up on exact match searches then I'd say that they banned you in some way. That is what Twitter does and what Bing did here. We call what Twitter does "shadow ban" since they still show you to yourself, to people subscribing to you and people with a direct link, but nobody else can find you, it isn't a total shadow ban but they are doing something very similar to a shadow…

There is no such thing as a total or less than total shadow ban. If you are visible with anyone with a direct link you aren't shadow banned it

Bubble ban is also poor verbiage because not appearing in anyone's feed or search results is the default condition not inherently a punishment or redaction.

A search is inherently a selection process and it's perfectly valid to say some content isn't fit to appear anywhere in a listing.

I like reddits choice of "quarantined"

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by LAC-Tech »

irrational wrote: post #139
gary_0 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recently on HN there was "Someone is proxy-mirroring my website, can I do anything?": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33952114 It feels like the Internet is a more hostile place than ever for small-time websites. You get squeezed from below by wily criminals, and crushed from above by careless megacorps who want to filter out anything that doesn't make them money.

Nowadays, when I search for things, the results are often clearly pages that have come from a program scrapping sites and then merging them into one page. You can tell because the pages are not really coherent and quickly start to repeat themselves. I assume they are getting money through ads on the pages, though I never actually see the ads because of my blockers. I wish there was a button in the browser that I coul…

uBlacklist is really good for that. Just click "block this site" in the search results.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublacklist/pncfbmi...

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by CamperBob2 »

411111111111111 wrote: post #142
irrational wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowadays, when I search for things, the results are often clearly pages that have come from a program scrapping sites and then merging them into one page. You can tell because the pages are not really coherent and quickly start to repeat themselves. I assume they are getting money through ads on the pages, though I never actually see the ads because of my blockers. I wish there was a button in the browser that I coul…

> I wish there was a button in the browser that I could click to report the page as spam to all search engines. The spammers would use that offensively to destroy the original content creators with that system

The way it should work is that the spam reports are used only to filter the results you see.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Post by Twirrim »

Okay, so this prompted me to look at Big Webmaster tools. It looks like they recognise my sitemap file, but haven't bothered to index it in nearly a decade. "Last processed: 6/6/2014". I know I don't post new content that frequently but... WTF?
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