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This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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post #109

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I'm the opposite of disappointed. The amount of public pretrained models that have been popping up recently is crazy.

Same model with random tweaks applied. Just because there is a new toy doesn’t mean capitalism gave up.

Nor have pirates:

https://twitter.com/novelaiofficial/status/15785291897410805...

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#142

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I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

And mind-boggling you criticize and demonize technology on a forum about technology all while not only being on the internet but also using electricity, a computer, and certainty surrounded by gadgets and other amenities of modern life. Nature is SHIT, that is why people created technology. There is nothing preventing you from going to the middle of nowhere and reject modernity, no one is forcing you, but you are tha…

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som...

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#143

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That one requires a big GPU and isn’t real-time. If you want to clone a voice and have a shitton of compute to fine tune it’s a good one. If you just want your computer to tell you you need to be out the door in 30 seconds or you’ll miss the bus then not so much.

I found that it's much easier for me to read and remember when reading with voice assistant for which I need real-time. Ages ago I bought Ivona Text-to-speech and was serving me very well for many years. The last few years I used AWS Polly and espeak (using this https://github.com/laszukdawid/cracker ) but thought that there must be something better.

There seems to be a fairly wide selection between state of the art and just glueing together a bunch of phonemes it’s just that tortoise-tts is up there with the state of the art.

I haven’t looked into the mid range stuff but there’s probably something out there with pretty good quality if you don’t mind doing some coding, end user applications seem to be mostly in the startup SaaS charge by the character domain.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#144
post #111

Okay can I ask a question that has been bothering me for a long time? Why do seemingly all these text-to-speech programs attempt to produce spoken voice based solely on raw text ? Why don't they consume a MIDI-like text-markup language where you can write phonetic pronunciations along with markup about the emotion, volume, speed, etc.? I feel like this is a huge unnecessary roadblock holding back this kind of technol…

I wonder if it would be possible to automate this by pairing the speech synthesis with a ML model that understands the context of the text it is parsing.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#146

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

Assuming the internet will soon mostly be generated content, and assuming this content is dull and soulless as you describe it, I'm wondering if it's not going to make the real world and interactions in person more interesting?

I could do with cutting my screen time and the best way to do that might be to make everything boring.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

And mind-boggling you criticize and demonize technology on a forum about technology all while not only being on the internet but also using electricity, a computer, and certainty surrounded by gadgets and other amenities of modern life. Nature is SHIT, that is why people created technology. There is nothing preventing you from going to the middle of nowhere and reject modernity, no one is forcing you, but you are tha…

Why are you so hostile? What sense does it make, to attack him because he does not already have, what he is wishing for?

Nature is not "SHIT", for whatever that should mean. Neither the blanket statement "Technology is evil" nor "Nature is shit" make sense. We are humans. We need nature - it is what we evolved to and our technology is not able to replace it without loss. Specific technology is great to overcome existential limitations, but most technology is not.

Sure, there is great technology out there that improves our lives. On the other hand, there is so much technology that makes our lives worse (because of how it is used: e.g., by being of advantage to few people, while being bad for everyone else or by helping individuals now but having severe effects lateron), it can hardly be ignored, that a better process for selection or containment of technology would be necessary to improve everybodies life. But mankind is bad at forgoing.

Current technology seems to be great at generating convenience and excitement. And the examples you mention (movies, infinite energy, VR and eternal life) feel like the wishes for more excitement of a teenager (and this is not meant condescending), but life is so much more than excitement. Excitement is just the cherry on top. I'd rather see more tech that is wholesome - but that area seems to be left to nature.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#148

Less than a week ago, I said AI would upend the market for voice actors within the next couple of years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34271948

Not only voice actors, include radio hosts, documentary/news content, any voice over for anything, as well as imitation of familiar voices.

There's already an AI streamer on Twitch

https://kotaku.com/neuro-sama-twitch-vtuber-ban-holocaust-mi...

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#149
post #111

Okay can I ask a question that has been bothering me for a long time? Why do seemingly all these text-to-speech programs attempt to produce spoken voice based solely on raw text ? Why don't they consume a MIDI-like text-markup language where you can write phonetic pronunciations along with markup about the emotion, volume, speed, etc.? I feel like this is a huge unnecessary roadblock holding back this kind of technol…

I remember in the 80s of last century there was a speech synthesis software I had on an 8 bit computer that accepted either normal text, or phonetic notation that had extra modifiers for basic things like "make this a question" etc.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#150
post #77

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

The ideal use case is someone who wants to be an influencer, but is neither pretty, intelligent, nor has a good voice, could simply use face filters, GPT text, and a voice filter to make themselves sound and look beautiful.

I don't follow influencers but my guess is that they already do this, at least they use filters. If someone can use all these tools to gain considerable amount of fame and fortune, is (s)he really not intelligent? Of course, all these online personas will be lies, even bigger lies than today but I don't think it really matters. I'd argue that most people following these contents are not looking for reality.
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