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Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by rendall »

COGlory wrote: post #66

I don't understand. The bill was passed with an overwhelming, veto-proof majority. Then it sat on the Governor's desk until she made changes (after intense lobbying)? But the NY legislature is not in session, but the bill is signed? So how were the changes approved by the legislature? What is the precise legal mechanism here? Is this legal? My initial impression is that this is an illegal act of tyranny and should be…

One comment on the video a) notes that the legislature approved the changes and b) would not have passed the bill otherwise in the first place, but get to blame the governor.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by krisoft »

subradios wrote: post #133
Ekaros wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need some 3-strike rules for companies. Three 3-strikes like wrong reasons used and you are permanently out. Your property is confiscated and sold, wages are paid out, any debtors are paid if there is any money and rest is forfeited as penalty to state.

"Be a good person" is not a law I want anyone writing, because such a policy relies on the moral fortitude of random executive bureaucrats. "Wrong" reason is subjective. Tickets are nonrefundable because otherwise the network doesn't work, financially. Every hole in that increases costs far beyond the refunds themselves further down the line. Air travel is not a high margin, luxury product, it's a lot margin mass mar…

> Tickets are nonrefundable because otherwise the network doesn't work, financially.

Wait. I don’t understand you. “Nonrefundable” means to me that you who bought a ticket can’t decide to not fly and ask for your money back.

If the airline for whatever reason decides to not fly the route, or doesn’t have the capacity then that is a different thing altogether. Are you arguing that it is okay for an airline to take your money, do not provide you with the service promised and keep your money?

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by rendall »

silisili wrote: post #105

This is really sad. I used to watch Louis when he was coming up. I didn't even own an Apple device, I just liked how he'd treat customers and show all of us his approach, and how to do it, for free. The corrupt government ruined him. It turned a beautiful young mind ready to change the world into a really bitter person. That's not a knock against him, but against the NYS Government. Glad he moved away, and hope he ha…

He'll be ok. Bitterness comes when one focuses on how reality does not meet expectations. However, reality is noisy, and just as often exceeds expectations. We can all choose where to place our focus.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by concordDance »

rendaw wrote: post #119
ammar2 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the reasoning would be to disincentivize airlines from potentially flying a plane that is unsafe to avoid paying out.

If they suddenly have way more safety issues, the logical next step would be to prevent them from operating an airline, right? All this says to me is that the government does nothing to prevent hugely unsafe airlines from operating. The cancellation loophole seems fine to me, it's the followthrough that's concerning. What am I missing here?

> If they suddenly have way more safety issues, the logical next step would be to prevent them from operating an airline, right?

Thing is, you, as an external observer, can't tell.

There are a zillion things that slightly increase risk. If a manager ignores a couple to avoid having a black mark due to costing the company money its very unlikely to bite him in any way that can be pinned on him. But the combination of a very large number of these little decisions will eventually result in a crash.

And before you ask, no, saying "well you just tell everyone they must take no risks at all or its prison time" is not the answer as that will basically kill the airlines as a form of mass transit, leading to everyone taking the more dangerous car trips. There's always something more that can be done to reduce risk.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by switch007 »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #120
smnrchrds wrote: post #44

I believe the analysis. Here in Canada, the government passed a law not that long ago (during the pandemic) to enshrine rights of passengers for delayed and cancelled flights, which included right to specific amounts of monetary compensation in those scenarios. The law, however, had an exception, where no compensation is due if the flight is delayed or cancelled due to a safety issue. Lo and behold, the airlines have…

The error is in trying to handle such a specific situation in the law. This should be sorted out using some form of court. If a customer is unhappy about any aspect of the service from any business, he can approach the court and the judge will decide what is appropriate. No super specific laws.

Courts are indeed famously level playing fields and easy and cheap to access for the common man.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by politelemon »

meindnoch wrote: post #63
reilly3000 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an awesome resource, but I'm left wondering how to interpret the data. For instance I see that Microsoft paid for a bunch of lobbying for a bunch of things, and it's clear they had 2 meetings with NY Senators and Executive staff about S 4104. What I don't see is what they were advocating for. Are they for or against it? Did they push some language that would benefit them in the long run? All I can see so far…

Yes, my friend, we ought to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt, since they gave us VSCode and GitHub. Why would they lobby for such an evil thing? Surely, this must be some grave misunderstanding!

That's a piss poor take. I see the "DIGITAL RIGHT TO REPAIR COALITION" on the list, shall we assume they were also against the right to repair?

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by buzzy_hacker »

r_hoods_ghost wrote: post #110
college_physics wrote: post #96

Every such event reminds me of that celebrated fraud of an academic who argued that corporations exist to maximize profit within the applicable legal framework and that it is how things should be. The fact that corporate entities actively shape the legal framework to suit narrow interests that frequently undermine collective welfware somehow escaped him. When intellectual dishonesty and amoral behavior reach such sys…

Is this an academic who is celebrated and is a fraud or an academic who was defrauded. The second would be deliciously ironic. The first alas could describe entire economics sub fields

I take it they are referring to Milton Friedman.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by switch007 »

smnrchrds wrote: post #44

I believe the analysis. Here in Canada, the government passed a law not that long ago (during the pandemic) to enshrine rights of passengers for delayed and cancelled flights, which included right to specific amounts of monetary compensation in those scenarios. The law, however, had an exception, where no compensation is due if the flight is delayed or cancelled due to a safety issue. Lo and behold, the airlines have…

Entirely predictable if you follow the history of the same protections in the EU. Many get out clauses and varying interpretations of the legislation meant lots of weaselling out claims. Many things were “extraordinary circumstances”

There have been various court cases to clarify and strengthen the regulations.

It will take another 5 years probably for the Canadian regulations to have a serious effect which gives the airlines plenty of time to shaft customers in another manner.

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Post by hmnd0 »

anarticle wrote: post #129
harporoeder wrote: post #48

Shameless plug, the organization Louis (and I) work for, FUTO, is hosting a fellowship program sponsoring people to work on open-source software for three months for $20k-$80k and free housing in Austin. Applications are due Jan 1st! https://futo.org/fellows

Very cool project! Louis is one of my favorite youtubers. One catch on the site is no definition of FUTO? I looked all over and couldn't find out what the acronym (?) means. Future Use Tech Org? Fun Under The Orange?

According to Rossmann's FAQ[1] it's 'supposedly "four letters that sound good together".......'. Someone did also add an entry on Urban Dictionary[2] defining it as "Fuck You, Tech Oligopoly"; seems that's the closest we're gonna get to an answer for now...

[1] https://store.rossmanngroup.com/faq.txt [2] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FUTO

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by starbugs »

silisili wrote: post #105

This is really sad. I used to watch Louis when he was coming up. I didn't even own an Apple device, I just liked how he'd treat customers and show all of us his approach, and how to do it, for free. The corrupt government ruined him. It turned a beautiful young mind ready to change the world into a really bitter person. That's not a knock against him, but against the NYS Government. Glad he moved away, and hope he ha…

I don't think he's bitter. He's just outraged and for good reason. We all should be I believe?
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