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Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by phpisthebest »

GoOnThenDoTell wrote: post #52
programmarchy wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sadly, that's the US for you. Eat crow, mate.

Um what? The US is terrible in how employees are treated

Um What? have you actually worked in the US? I find alot of people in other nations often complain about the lack of US regulations with out understanding that most employers go far beyond what regulations require them.

I for one do not want the Federal Government controlling my employment, I dont want the federal government doing anything other than national defense.

So no I do not want EU employment laws here in the US.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 »

Yuri, After reading about your visa situation, a wrongful dismissal lawyer can claim for the extra expenses because of your visa situation including returning to home country, temporary accommodation, possibly being forced off employment market for an extended time until your visa situation is sorted out, extra travel etc.

Wrongful dismissal law (precedents) requires you to make reasonable effort to mitigate damages;so keep up your job search.

Remember that once you have a new job offer, any delay in beginning employment while waiting for a new visa can be claimed against Amazon.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by jemmyw »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #47
jimlongton wrote: post #37

Is your current post already filled? I'm in the EU and filling positions left by people resigning has taken months. Talk to your old manager and HR. They might be more desperate than they appear.

Staying at a job that you resigned from is not a good idea, unless it’s very short term. For many reasons.

That depends a lot on why you left and your relationship with the company/manager. A sensible manager will know that any employee could move on at any time, therefore it's not unreasonable to take someone back whose circumstances have changed. They're still going to provide higher immediate value than a new hire, and I don't know that they'd even have a higher risk of leaving, again depends on the existing relationship.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 »

benj111 wrote: post #119
BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 wrote: post #107

You need a wrongful dismissal lawyer in the Canadian province you would have been working in. Canada has had a number of successful "wrongful hiring" lawsuits where the prospective employer has had to pay up. Likely you would win an amount equivalent to the severance you would be eligible for from your previous employer plus additional expenses for relocation. A letter from a wrongful dismissal lawyer will likely ope…

>Likely you would win an amount equivalent to the severance you would be eligible for from your previous employer plus additional expenses for relocation I wouldn't be hopeful about this. Speaking from the UK, we have wrongful dismissal that's basically a breach of contract, so you're basically eligible for the notice period, which is 2 weeks, although I think it takes a week to kick in. You could perhaps sue for oth…

Canadian wrongful dismissal law is quite different. It's not so much the statutes as the precedents that have been developed in a number of court rulings. If you have followed the Business section of any Canadian newspaper, you would be well aware of employment law rulings in Canadian courts.

I suspect Amazon HR has assumed that they can get away in Canada with what they do in the US.

They may be about to be taught an expensive lesson.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by ekanes »

BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 wrote: post #143

Yuri, After reading about your visa situation, a wrongful dismissal lawyer can claim for the extra expenses because of your visa situation including returning to home country, temporary accommodation, possibly being forced off employment market for an extended time until your visa situation is sorted out, extra travel etc. Wrongful dismissal law (precedents) requires you to make reasonable effort to mitigate damages;…

> once you have a new job offer, any delay in beginning employment while waiting for a new visa can be claimed against Amazon

If this is the case, I wonder if it implies that you can pursue an equivalent job IN CANADA, with Amazon paying for anything lost in the process...

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by retinaros »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #40
tyingq wrote: post #17

Rescinding an offer that's tied to a visa is just extra shitty, sorry this happened to you. Surely they know the consequences that you'll suffer. I wonder if the Amazon leadership chain that collectively decided to do this has any remorse. Edit: Feels like something that governments should tie to individual company's ability to use the visa program. Rescind a visa-tied offer (for no-fault-of-applicant reason), and we…

So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.

well at least the person employed has amazon on the resume and years of experience at amazon. this guy might have no name companies before amazon and abandoned a confortable position for the opportunity at amazon. id rather have 3 year at amazon on my resume while looking for a new job in this challenging time. especially in europe

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by prometheon1 »

parasense wrote: post #138
prng2021 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The better option would have been to hire him. How is that not obvious? Amazon as a multi-national, multi-billion dollar company can absorb the expense of employing him. I’m the worst case, they can lay off an existing low performing employee to compensate.

> Amazon as a multi-national, multi-billion dollar company can absorb the expense of employing him. That is a very charitable opinion. The idea that because a company is large enough, or profitable enough, that it therefore should be compelled to hire indefinitely, or never shrink in size. Let me ask, is it your opinion that economies only ever grow forward, that companies in the economy never shrink?

I don’t think that not rescinding an already made offer and “hiring indefinitely” are the same thing
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