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Re: Spotifyd

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Post by plasticeagle »

winternett wrote: post #102
nzoschke wrote: post #16

Always great to see new ways to integrate with Spotify. I think that if you're paying for a Spotify Premium subscription you should be able to stream music wherever you want! However Spotify doesn't agree. If this is based on librespot its using stuff Spotify doesn't support and could easily shut down for unauthorized clients any time. Their supported paths are iOS and Android SDKs for mobile, and the Web Playback SD…

Just one minor tweak of what plays next can totally rip off independent artists on the platform. We have reached an era where algorithms aren't transparent, so artists like me are bewildered that for all the promoting we do on our own music, we rarely get any views and listens unless we literally spend thousands of dollars on advertising to break the visibility barrier... For example, if I tweet a link to my own song…

I feel like promoting your own music has always been a massively uphill struggle, and the successful ones still got there by playing hundreds upon hundreds of shows.

There's a huge element of luck too, who happens to hear you, whether or not you strike some chord with the public in some way. But mainly, it's just hard work. Many artists took a very long time, playing shows in small venues for years, building up local fanbases... and then eventually saw some small measure of success. Many more saw nothing.

I'm hesitant to blame the internet for this. Sure there are some artists who seemed to get plucked from nowhere, and were catapulted to international success overnight. But most, most just worked hard, and got there eventually.

Re: Spotifyd

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Post by vladvasiliu »

suprjami wrote: post #11

Have tried this several times but I find it drops off the network as a remote play device. If you have a PC with the Spotify app running, that appears as a remote play device to other clients. Otherwise I found ncspot to be more reliable than spotifyd: https://github.com/hrkfdn/ncspot/

> If you have a PC with the Spotify app running, that appears as a remote play device to other clients.

The issue I've found with the PC setup, which I've been using after being somewhat unconvinced by Volumio, is that for dynamic playlists, the clients don't seem to agree on the contents. I have to manually go load the playlist on the player PC so that when the songs advance I can see it on my local computer. The player PC only does that, so I never interact with it.

Re: Spotifyd

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Post by dotancohen »

winternett wrote: post #128
fearface wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if you link it to a playlist that starts with your song?

The platforms always counter your moves. At times I've found that shared links simply don't work, or they divert to a 404 page. It's often hard to figure out what is happening unless you have several different workstations over several different IP addresses. It would be wild if a YouTuber did some documented video tests on this issue at some point.

Why specifically a YouTuber?

I think that you are a bit too hung up about what happens where on the internet, especially considering that your complaint is about bad faith actions of the large platforms.

Re: Spotifyd

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Post by Mogzol »

winternett wrote: post #128
fearface wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if you link it to a playlist that starts with your song?

The platforms always counter your moves. At times I've found that shared links simply don't work, or they divert to a 404 page. It's often hard to figure out what is happening unless you have several different workstations over several different IP addresses. It would be wild if a YouTuber did some documented video tests on this issue at some point.

I work with Spotify links and the Spotify API regularly for work and have never seen a link to a playlist or track randomly 404 or not work. Spotify share links are really basic, they're just an ID and type of link, like "/track/{id}" or "/playlist/{id}".

Not saying you're wrong, I've just personally never had issues with them, and I work with lots of share links from a variety of artists.

Re: Spotifyd

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Post by bobleeswagger »

pdntspa wrote: post #137
ubercow13 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the sense that you own the physical CD but only have a license to use the music on it. Ripping a CD is not legal in many countries including UK and probably the US [1], so do you 'own' the music any more than someone who has pirated it? I guess, in some sense. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping#Legality

The license is meaningless if you hold the physical bits and choose to ignore everything else

Licenses are meaningless, period.

Re: Spotifyd

#146

Post by tjoff »

matthew-wegner wrote: post #90

Some other setups already in the comments, but to chime in with my own: I gave up on 3rd party things. My automation VM includes a GUI environment, and I run the official Linux Spotify client. The only way my setup can break is if Spotify gives on Linux entirely. Snapcast[1] transmits two streams to 7 different speaker setups: * Music + text to speech * Just text to speech When TTS plays on the first stream, music vo…

That sounds quite neat, however, this only works for your (spotify) account, right?

The appeal of spotifyd from an end-user perspective is that anyone on the network can control it.

Re: Spotifyd

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Post by Ziggy_Zaggy »

Maybe I'm missing something but why don't more ppl just built their own (web-based?) media player and drop-in mp3s and mp4s...? It's not that difficult and is easily hosted on a server available anywhere behind a basic authenication gate. This solutions is esp. useful if you have any NAS setup.

What's the rationale for not building homebrew media players instead of railing against Spotify...?

Re: Spotifyd

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Post by tandav »

Ziggy_Zaggy wrote: post #147

Maybe I'm missing something but why don't more ppl just built their own (web-based?) media player and drop-in mp3s and mp4s...? It's not that difficult and is easily hosted on a server available anywhere behind a basic authenication gate. This solutions is esp. useful if you have any NAS setup. What's the rationale for not building homebrew media players instead of railing against Spotify...?

I use https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome and it’s great

Re: Spotifyd

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Post by strken »

iamacyborg wrote: post #73
strken wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you or jrm4 explain why Spotify's royalty system (a 70/30 split in favour of the rights holder) is unfair? If I had to guess I'd say it convinces artists to license their work for less money than they'd make if they stuck it on Bandcamp, but I'm not certain, and neither of you has explained it.

Spotify don’t pay 70/30 and the actual payout is not related to what individuals actually listen to. For example, I could spend a month listening to only indie artists, but the lion’s share of my subscription would be paid out to major labels.

The Hypebot explanation suggests it's more complicated than that: https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2021/11/how-spotify-royaltie...

I have no idea whether it's correct or not.

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