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Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#141
Yes! The solution is to go 100% public domain.

Programming language information: pldb.com (100% public domain — you can download the CSV and even entire git history)

Music: try https://musicofapeople.com/ (actually, far better than ours is NoCopyrightSounds: https://ncs.io/)

Newspapers: check out https://longbeach.pub/

Much, much more coming

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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> why a password manager should be a SaaS While I fully agree with you, how do you sync passwords across my 3 laptops and 3 phones without a SaaS offering? While I don't use this feature, but it is common for ppl to share an account. How can I securely share credentials with family members?

But what you're really asking is how can you share them conveniently and quickly. Maybe the answer is, you can't. Write them down, text each other, call each other and read it over the phone. Making a spare key for my parents to get in my house isn't "click a button easy," I have to go to the hardware store -- and maybe THAT'S the appropriate level of difficulty.

I'd rather just pay for the subscription, honestly. Especially in a bigger family or team / company context. To each their own.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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I actually prefer the subscription model for my software, if the monthly price is reasonable. It gives me faith that they can actually sustain their business and pay their employees to maintain and improve the service over time. I hate the other model, where with Windows and Office you end up getting useless forced upgrades and terrible makeovers because they need that upgrade revenue every few years. Or the ad drive…

> It gives me faith that they can actually sustain their business and pay their employees to maintain and improve the service over time. > Owning software is worthless to me because their effective lifespans are so short anyway, usually just a couple years, before the ecosystem has moved on and left them behind anyway. I find it strange that these two sentences are in the same comment.

Yes, it's a very modern take on a recent problem.

I used VLC, Firefox (Phoenix), LibreOffice (OOo), MSOffice, paint, photofiltre, and notepad++ when I was a teen. They still work today.

The trending app ecosystem, the social network du jour and the JS framework fever seem to have given the impression to the new generation that there is not other way to do this.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#144

Most software is fundamentally a service. You want to be able to sync your passwords and notes, and receive security and bug fix updates. Companies need to fund that infrastructure and ongoing development.

That's only true because it has been engineered to only be that way.

For example many pieces of software that used to be syncable through bring your own options have dropped those in favor of charging for their sync capabilities.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#145
Ignoring all the issues around ownership, corporations being untrustworthy, etc., I think one of the biggest problems is that subscription costs aren't flexible enough and require too much micromanagement.

You use a program 24/7 for a month straight? That'll be $10.

You need to use a program just for a single 5-minute task in a whole month? That'll be $10.

You literally don't touch a program for a month? That'll be $10. Or you can unsubscribe, and then resubscribe, over and over again.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#147

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What the heck subscription models are you using? In my experience the software gets broken over time and you can't do anything about it, including RUN THE OLD VERSION WHICH WORKED. There's no longer as much incentive for companies to improve because they'll get paid anyway instead of payment being contingent on actually delivering something useful. Yes subscription models are good for developers, no this doesn't make…

Not the OP, but I have to disagree too. Creative Cloud, IntelliJ, Figma, Google Workspace, Postman, Spotify, Vercel, Adguard, Google storage space, Alltrails, 1password.. They're all subscriptions and getting better all the time. Meanwhile it's the old purchased software like Windows and Office that get worse with every version.

Do you feel as though Windows as a SaaS would be better? At least as a consumer I have a choice to say “I’d rather not upgrade to Windows 11 and get the worse experience” and not just login and see that those changes that I wouldn’t have upgraded for have just been pushed down as it happens with a SaaS.

Windows, as an example, is an interesting one in that you’re paying once for a license and it’s good more or less indefinitely (or until things stop working and are no longer supported), but Microsoft does still have an obligation to be pushing out updates, whether security or QoL, so I’m not sure that it being worse over time has any reflection on the license model.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#149
Yes, but also no.

I'm more tired of all the damned Ads, and the tracking that they stuff into things.

I'd happily pay for a service that lets me keep up with all my family if it wasn't trying to know everything about me. To be clear: i'd prefer an open protocol that i just connect up to the network, and get my own feed, but at least a subscription model could mean an ad-free experience.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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Not going out of business, but on the iPad there is a drawing app called Procreate which is a one time purchase. It’s decent, but in the two years I’ve had it, nothing has really improved and there is a whole lot missing or to be desired. Meanwhile some subscription apps have come to the iPad and they are absolutely packed with every feature you could possibly want. For any well run company, the more the users are pa…

In my opinion you shouldn't expect future updates of any kind from software that you own. I wouldn't expect them to keep updating it because it obviously makes them no money. I would expect them to release a new product to keep making money.

No I don't expect it because it's obviously impossible to be sustainable. Which is why I choose subscription stuff because then I can expect a constant stream of new value for my payment or I cancel the subscription.
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