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Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

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Re: Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

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What surprises me is that it took the SOPA fiasco to get people to move their domains from GoDaddy. A while back, I bought one domain from them and it took less than a month for me to transfer it out. The service was just that bad. Not only is GoDaddy a morally reprehensible company, but more disturbingly they're not even a good registrar. They constantly try to upsell you, they plaster your domains with ads. They do…

To be fair, editing DNS records has nothing to do with being a registrar. Free DNS servers aren't even a service all registrars provide, and they're one most customers don't use -- they use their web host's. For anyone building a tech business, you have no excuse for tying your DNS service to your choice of registrar.

Most people running a tech business use an unmanaged VPS or dedicated server. Running your own DNS server is kind of a pain—so, when all registrar run their own DNS servers and most have pretty good UI for record management, why not use them?

For what it's worth, I use domainsite.com. They're a solid and cheap registrar, and though their UI isn't the prettiest, managing domains and DNS records is fantastic. I use them for everything.

Re: Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

#144

I won't because GoDaddy no longer supports SOPA.

not sure if people are just mis-informed or just don't read the news: http://mashable.com/2011/12/23/breaking-godaddy-no-longer-su...

Did they convince you?

Re: Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the words of Elie Wiesel, "Take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor. Never the victim. Never the tormented." It obviously doesn't feel quite right to equate this whole fiasco to what Wiesel was talking about, but I just cannot think of a quote more fitting than that. Too often people think inaction implies neutrality . It does not . It's an enabling behavior. Passivity is a free permission slip for the status qu…

It isn't a clear choice, because the service they provide is something I didn't have a problem with, and moving would mean extra work and effort I'm not willing to pay. Why am I not willing to pay the price? Because, as I wrote, I'd have to do the same thing with every other company who's services I use, when I don't agree with their decisions, or find their CEO someone who should be locked away and never spoken of e…

Not to argue about this particular decision so much, but in general the argument that you can't do X good thing because it's not possible for you to do the same in all similar contexts in your life simply doesn't hold water. It's your prerogative to draw the line for effort you'll allocate to this particular goal. Some decisions will fall below that line, and some above it.

It's basically saying you can't pick any of the cherries off of the tree, because some are on much higher branches than others.

That's fine; if you don't have the time to clamber around on a ladder -- e.g., research the ethics behind every company you give any money to -- you pick the low-hanging fruit. So when you can make a fairly low-cost choice to move away from a company with a history of dubious ethics that you already know of, you do it.

Or if you have an hour to spare, you can choose the single largest flexible expense in your life and improve your related decisions based on a little research.

There's always low-hanging fruit. If you want to make your life (and the world) a better place, that's where you start.

Re: Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

#146

I won't because GoDaddy no longer supports SOPA.

not sure if people are just mis-informed or just don't read the news: http://mashable.com/2011/12/23/breaking-godaddy-no-longer-su...

This wasn't a threat -- "you'd better stop supporting SOPA or we'll move our domains".

That's fairly useless, because the damage is already done (and anything they put now in a press release is obviously -- even to senators -- just GoDaddy's PR folks "managing" those excitable internet users and their cause du jour (secret: say whatever you have to today, let it blow over, and go back to business as usual next month).

Instead, it's more worthwhile to watch the history of decisions, lobbying, etc. by a company, and avoid them as needed based on that. A company can change, to be sure, but not through vague press releases -- only through building up new history.

Re: Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

#147
post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you are offended by the intention? Plenty of people enjoy hunting. Does that make them bad people worthy of contempt? This whole elephant thing is ridiculous.

> Plenty of people enjoy hunting. Does that make them bad people worthy of contempt? If they kill animals for fun, yes. He paid $70,000 to shoot the elephant. He's sick.

Well I think you'd be hard pressed to find a hunter in the US that hunts only for the food gained. Maybe spending 70,000 dollars is sick, but I would hardly call those who hunt for "sport" sick. I myself have never hunted, but I imagine it satisfies some urge in those who do it.

Re: Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

#148
So, despite all the surprised comments from earlier posts, of the type "Surely no HN guy would ever use with GD", etc, almost 1/2 of those responding to this HN poll use/used GD.

Sure, it's not 100% representative, given that people that have/had GD accounts are more likely to even opt to read the poll than people without those, but still, a large number of HN readers use GD.

Re: Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

#149

The thing that surprised me most about this whole situation is that so many tech-savvy people use Godaddy. Their spammy marketing and variable pricing screams bush-league to me. I'll forgive my dad for using them cause he doesn't know he had options, but for something so fundamental, how does anyone trust them?

""" I'll forgive my dad for using them cause he doesn't know he had options, but for something so fundamental, how does anyone trust them?"""

I hope this list is complete:

1) Cheap beats a lot of things.

2) They give you minimal trouble if you only use their registration services (I hear that their other offerings are terrible).

3) Popular and well known also attracts people -- "I need a domain name, hmm, this company sounds familiar, and almost everyone else is using it".

4) Domain registration is not something you're going to thoroughly evaluate. It's a 5 min process that doesn't cost that much anyway.

5) A hacker guy feels "clever" when he can navigate through all their extra offerings, specials, trap checkboxes etc and just order what he needs, like he somehow "beat the system".

6) Popular and hugely successful means they are going to stick around. People have been burned by web hosting/registrars/similar services that closed business after a while.

Re: Poll: Will you move your domains from GoDaddy today?

#150
"allegedly one or more of the domains some have purchased were removed for them or rather 'auctioned' elsewhere while they were still owned years ago to the very place[s] which were using their original birth given names as url re-direct to other companies already protected by the two year 'co. status'[this singular statement could be looked at neutrally] - ie: an 'upright above boards business or company should be able to own it's own intellectual property and name/domain name'. as 2011 some of these lost urls/domain names read as an internal error 404. this is the tip of a huge seemingly inanimate elephant in the iceberg room and if it [was me] i would have had nothing to do it. 'auctioned' would be a key word in this statement and nothing innocent 'auctioned off' unwillingly with 'possible' malice has ever been a good thing- even if the 1st to 3rd party is claiming simple ignorance or neutrality." however i am not really that smart and would have never seen any of this coming. lesson learned. things could have been worse fro some it wasn't for others. how to make things better is the question now. it is good to be alive. i have never worked for the co. mentioned in this poll, if it matters.
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