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Post by eropple »

paganel wrote: post #126
eropple wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not saying he's scared of "terrorism", he's scared that they'll call it terrorism and use it as a club against People They Don't Like.

English is my mother tongue, but that's what I wanted to say, actually, that we shouldn't be afraid of people tagging random stuff as "terrorism", we should do something about it, otherwise we're just potatoes or vegetables waiting for bad things to happen.

No, I get that. I think the person you replied to was saying the same thing. =)

Re: 3.3 million e-mails between the most powerful men are about to be released.

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Post by grandalf »

doktrin wrote: post #124
stfu wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't get what was wrong with Stratefor. I subscribed to their newsletter a long time ago and the content was somewhat on the Foreign Affairs magazine level. Sure, some military and secret service personal were among the subscribers, but they are most likely among the subscribers of the Wired magazine as well. I am truly looking forward to the email leak and what kind of secret in formations they are able to…

Stratfor was essentially labeled as a form of collateral damage. The self-described Anon spokesperson basically said they weren't one of the "offenders" but were "of interest". I don't feel sold on the merits of going after Stratfor - it's almost as if it was merely a convenient and vulnerable target. It's not too hard to envision just about any company or organization being targeted because of some vague affiliation…

Stratfor is an organization (similar in a way to wikileaks) that offers private individuals the option of buying intelligence analysis. I used to be a subscriber.

How does stratfor get this intel to share with its clients? By tips provided by trusted sources in government. These people would probably lose their jobs if it was found out that they shared info with stratfor.

I would not be surprised if the USG infiltrated anonymous and did this attack as part of a campaign against whistleblowers.

Re: 3.3 million e-mails between the most powerful men are about to be released.

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Post by BaseBand »

forensic wrote: post #117
BaseBand wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would have to follow the twisted logic, Do you really expect these people to have not committed any crimes over the entire course of the emails? I would have more of a issue if this was personal correspondence but this is dealing with large US institutions and people that deal with policy.

Policy makers don't get intelligence from Stratfor! For fuck's sake! You people are truly clueless! "Policy makers" get their intelligence from the CIA. Duh! No government relies on Stratfor, it would be grossly irresponsible. Stratfor makes most of its money from corporations that operate in foreign countries and are not large enough or important enough to have CIA-access. This means corporations OUTSIDE the militar…

Nice wording, "You people are truly clueless?".

Well one thing is clear, whatever kind of opposite world you live in large corporations don't have any influence over government policy.

There is no one on that client list who deals with anything policy related at all! The interesting things about company emails is that they tend to not communicate to the outside world.

Yes "Policy Makers" only get intelligence from the CIA. Since out of the huge intelligence budget the only agency we have that deals with matters outside of the US is the CIA.

Think tanks and other non governmental institutions are for people other than "Policy Makers"

I hope I'm keeping up the theme of saying completely backwards stuff!

Or that you just....clueless.

Re: 3.3 million e-mails between the most powerful men are about to be released.

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Post by forensic »

BaseBand wrote: post #143
forensic wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Policy makers don't get intelligence from Stratfor! For fuck's sake! You people are truly clueless! "Policy makers" get their intelligence from the CIA. Duh! No government relies on Stratfor, it would be grossly irresponsible. Stratfor makes most of its money from corporations that operate in foreign countries and are not large enough or important enough to have CIA-access. This means corporations OUTSIDE the militar…

Nice wording, "You people are truly clueless?". Well one thing is clear, whatever kind of opposite world you live in large corporations don't have any influence over government policy. There is no one on that client list who deals with anything policy related at all! The interesting things about company emails is that they tend to not communicate to the outside world. Yes "Policy Makers" only get intelligence from th…

You're just flat out ignorant regarding the nature of Stratfor.

It's not a think tank! It's not a big corporation! Stratfor serves medium and small corporations!

Hack the CFR. Hack the Brookings institute. Hack the RAND corporation. Hack the DoD. Hack the Tavistock institute and the Club of Rome and the Heritage foundation. Hack the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller foundation and hack Harvard and hack Yale and hack the New York Times. Hack Monsanto and KBR and Blackwater and GM and GE and News Corp. Hack the RIAA and hack AIPAC. Hack Blue Cross and Pfizer. Hack Goldman Sachs and Timothy Geithner.

Stratfor does not fall into this category. They are an unbiased high quality news source that serves small and medium businesses. They are not directly attached to the military industrial complex.

What you're clueless about is Stratfor. It's a small business with 70 employees. It's not a think tank and it's work even exposes the influence of the megacorps that run your country. It exposed the influence that international finance was having on the Euro crisis in a completely unbiased way, for instance. The rest of the media wouldn't even touch the Euro crisis with anything resembling a realistic appraisal. Stratfor just cut right to the heart. High quality journalism for about the same price as The Economist.

Stratfor was on the good team. Anonymous just committed a friendly fire incident.

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