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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by Aeolun »

honkler wrote: post #118
biztos wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider myself pretty quick to detect scams, having worked in cybersecurity, though probably no quicker than the average HN commenter. And yet 15 years ago I fell for the “sell products that are no longer available” scam. There was a keyboard I really wanted but it was no longer being made. However, I found an online shop that had them in stock! I ordered, paid, got my confirmation, and waited about two weeks befo…

usual geography being india?

It’s not really relevant other than that it’s anywhere beyond the reach of the law right?

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by drummer »

ipaddr wrote: post #84

You know it's fake because the company hasn't made you sit through 6 interviews with random panel guests then ghosted you for 3 month then low balled you and put a 24 hour expiry on the offer. Bonus credibility points for only giving half of the question during the whiteboard session only to casually remember remember at the very end while grading harshly for missing that. If the offer hasn't been rescinded at least…

Lol

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by [deleted] »

ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by 6c696e7578 »

ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

This is slightly different to most. Would it have got this far it is was a cold contact? Probably not.

What this group did was lure someone into thinking they're part of a company as you're more likely to do what your employer tells you and you're far more likely to trust your employer too.

It probably pays off for the scammers to spend time this way as they probably get a much better conversion ratio.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by fabian2k »

ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

I think the part that makes it more difficult to detect that this is a scam for someone that never encountered it is that it relies on the difference between real money in your account and "money" that can vanish at any point, you just don't know it. This is a case that most people don't encounter outside of this kind of scam. Another unintuitive part is that even if the rules of the bank say the money is yours, it actually isn't if it came from a third-party that was hacked/scammed/whatever.

The gift card thing is something that should trigger an alarm even if you never heard of it.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by lozenge »

jjav wrote: post #71
sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

> Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Based on the cheques spelling I guess you're not in the US. Checks are very common here, I write them every month. In theory I could pay my water bill by credit card but their payment portal is so randomly broken that I save a ton of headache by writing a check and dropping it off at their payment box. My office lease only takes checks. Various other rent…

I live in the UK and if a business or person wants to receive money, they just give out a bank account number (6 + 8 digits) and name. This number can't be used to withdraw cash, deposit cash or paper checks, or any other purpose. It doesn't get more convenient than that. Pretty much every other country works the same, except the US.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by the_gipsy »

ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

What amazes me is that americans still use cheques, that aren't "cleared" up to a week or so. That's ridiculous.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by Blackstone4 »

nigamanth wrote: post #6

To be honest, one can easily realize that this "Marc Cannon" is a fake with the amount of spelling and grammatical errors he makes. Real professionals do not make spelling and grammar errors such as: "Do you have any other question ?" "Good morning how are you this morning." "I will send you later" "Good morning, How are you doing today ?" "This is very disrespectful and all director are to meet you for training on m…

I read somewhere that some scammers do this deliberately to filter for easier targets.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by lozenge »

zerr wrote: post #139
bagels wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Classic fake check, send us the money before it clears scam. The premise this time is that the check is for office equipment for a fake job offer.

When you receive the check, shouldn't you go to the bank and withdraw the cash with that? And bank lets you know that it is a fake check, thus denying the withdrawal. At what stage and why are you required to send your cash to someone else?

No, the bank doesn't know if it's a fake check straight away. They find out weeks later during a reconciliation process with the bank that printed the check.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by nonrandomstring »

geysersam wrote: post #140
nonrandomstring wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one more very good reason not to indulge the insanity that is a "cashless society". If you let go of those government issued bills be sure that in no time at all you'll have nothing but fragmented, private "smart" currencies each hobbled with its own insidious restrictions.

This doesn't seem right. Cashless usually means electronic currency equivalent to physical currency. Card payments are not gift cards.

Whether the form is electronic or physical is irrelevant to my argument. If you read it again carefully you'll see that it's about state-backed versus private currencies. Don't let the technology dazzle you.
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