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Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by tptacek »

smcl wrote: post #136
imwillofficial wrote: post #133

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What drama? I pointed out that they are State/CIA fronts for propaganda, and that would be taken into account when reading the news. This isn't drama, it's context. As for this line "So when you say they are “literally” a front for the state department you are wrong." Their connections to State/CIA is well documented. This is hardly drama, it's context that would be helpful for people to know when judging information…

There's no drama, but people like the simple explanations of the world. USA: good, North Korea: bad. USA propaganda: justified, special, exceptional . non-US propaganda: suspect, biased, evil. So being confronted with the idea that they're simply a little bit blinkered (not totally brainwashed, just a little ignorant) and that history and current events involves more complexity and nuance causes some people a bit of…

North Korea is bad.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by icare_1er »

BurningPenguin wrote: post #122
icare_1er wrote: post #119

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"unfounded conspiracy theories, and trying to rile up society, so they can seize power and abolish democracy as a whole" >> Yeah yeah i know. That's pretty much copy-paste what any totalitarian regimes says when they shutdown the internet, cf. Iran lately. And no thanks, I don't need you to decide for me if a content is rubbish or not, I can work it out for myself... By the way, you wanna talk about how "unfounded" t…

I'm talking about the EU part of your nonsense. I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff. All i know is that there is still no proof for that and the only people whining about his alleged "corruption" are known to project their own corrupt ways onto others. What i do see all the time here in Germany, are a bunch of bots and funny accounts with random numbers artificially pushing primarily far right topics on Twitter t…

" I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff."

>> Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things.

And again, "he's a bot pushing far-right topic" is textbook what any totalitarian regimes say when they justify shutting down the internet, I don't think you realize how much you sound exactly like the Ministry of Information in Iran, in Moscow, or in North Korea.... "oh, but i'm leftist, it's ok when WE do it".

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by snapcaster »

osigurdson wrote: post #107
largepeepee wrote: post #103

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The problem with extremist takes like yours, is they remove any nuance, to the point of covering for other equally "anti-human" acts that eventually pop up. Take the falun gong cult, or Scientology of the east for instance. They were protected and given special status in New York and now spend a large amount of their time spreading nonsense propaganda about not just China but supporting extremists right wing parties…

If you like dictatorial regimes, please state it plainly.

If you support lying and propaganda, please state it plainly

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by snapcaster »

osigurdson wrote: post #95
snapcaster wrote: post #85

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NK and other dictatorial regimes suck. Western democracies that attempt to lean into authoritarianism also suck. We need to trend more toward free, open and democratic societies globally. Suggesting that dictatorships are fine because western governments occasionally do similar things isn't helpful - it is a purely apologist take. Of course, that is just my opinion, if you like dictatorships, please state it plainly.

If you support lying and propaganda, please state it plainly

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by BurningPenguin »

icare_1er wrote: post #142
BurningPenguin wrote: post #122

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I'm talking about the EU part of your nonsense. I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff. All i know is that there is still no proof for that and the only people whining about his alleged "corruption" are known to project their own corrupt ways onto others. What i do see all the time here in Germany, are a bunch of bots and funny accounts with random numbers artificially pushing primarily far right topics on Twitter t…

" I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff." >> Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things. And again, "he's a bot pushing far-right topic" is textbook what any totalitarian regimes say when they justify shutting down the internet, I don't think you realize how much you sound exactly like t…

> "Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things."

Ah yes, that must be it. Not the fact that this topic is mainly pushed by a known sensationalist crap show of a "news station", or a bunch of corrupt politicians whose followers tried to overthrow the government.

> And again, "he's a bot pushing far-right topic" is textbook what any totalitarian regimes say

Dude, if you don't even recognize accounts being about 2 months old, with literal serial numbers on it and not a single tweet until a certain point in time... Mixed with legit accounts of known party members of the AfD, a far right party, and people who follow the Russian propaganda of RT or literal Nazi blogs and have the "Reichsflagge" somewhere in their profile. It's so damn obvious, you'd have to be blind not to notice it.

Also, it's not about shutting down the internet. It's about applying existing law against mega cooperation who seem to think they stand above it. For some dumb reason, that seems controversial to you guys. No country in the world wants you to stand outside and scream "overthrow the government" or something. Why should it be allowed on the internet, then?

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by icare_1er »

BurningPenguin wrote: post #145
icare_1er wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff." >> Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things. And again, "he's a bot pushing far-right topic" is textbook what any totalitarian regimes say when they justify shutting down the internet, I don't think you realize how much you sound exactly like t…

> "Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things." Ah yes, that must be it. Not the fact that this topic is mainly pushed by a known sensationalist crap show of a "news station", or a bunch of corrupt politicians whose followers tried to overthrow the government. > And again, "he's a bot push…

"No country in the world wants you to stand outside and scream "overthrow the government" or something"

>> When many BLM protesters, even US Senators (of Illinois if memory serves me right), advocated VIOLENT protests to take down the establishment, using rhetoric like "this is a war", leftists applauded, and none was censored by GAFAs. Double-standards ?

And how do you make a tweet saying that there are only two-genders, equivalent to "overthrow a government" ? Sounds like a pretty convenient excuse to censor pretty much anyone you want... again, just like Iran... in Iran, removing head-scarf is deemed equivalent to wanting to "overthrow the government".

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by BurningPenguin »

icare_1er wrote: post #146
BurningPenguin wrote: post #145

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> "Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things." Ah yes, that must be it. Not the fact that this topic is mainly pushed by a known sensationalist crap show of a "news station", or a bunch of corrupt politicians whose followers tried to overthrow the government. > And again, "he's a bot push…

"No country in the world wants you to stand outside and scream "overthrow the government" or something" >> When many BLM protesters, even US Senators (of Illinois if memory serves me right), advocated VIOLENT protests to take down the establishment, using rhetoric like "this is a war", leftists applauded, and none was censored by GAFAs. Double-standards ? And how do you make a tweet saying that there are only two-gen…

> And how do you make a tweet saying that there are only two-genders, equivalent to "overthrow a government" ?

Where did i make it equivalent? Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm talking about people who are actively trying to subvert the democratic process. Because contrary to what they say, it's not that two-gender nonsense that gets them in trouble. It's a puppet they use to pretend to be victims. An age-old trick to get you to follow them.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by icare_1er »

BurningPenguin wrote: post #147
icare_1er wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"No country in the world wants you to stand outside and scream "overthrow the government" or something" >> When many BLM protesters, even US Senators (of Illinois if memory serves me right), advocated VIOLENT protests to take down the establishment, using rhetoric like "this is a war", leftists applauded, and none was censored by GAFAs. Double-standards ? And how do you make a tweet saying that there are only two-gen…

> And how do you make a tweet saying that there are only two-genders, equivalent to "overthrow a government" ? Where did i make it equivalent? Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm talking about people who are actively trying to subvert the democratic process. Because contrary to what they say, it's not that two-gender nonsense that gets them in trouble. It's a puppet they use to pretend to be victims. An age-old trick…

I talked about GAFAs censoring whatever is contradicting leftists, like, someone saying that there are only two genders.

You responded to this bringing the FSB.

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