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Re: Instagram Is Over

#141

Post by dageshi »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #114
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #81

On the topic of social media in decline, TikTok also appears to have peaked in content already. Following people isn't that interesting since most content creators that hit it big are One Hit Wonders. After they hit that big growth spike, they either follow the herd with the latest dance or trend, or they keep doing the same thing that made em famous with slight variations. How long can you milk the same dance routin…

You have to commend YouTube and Twitter's longevity as social networks. YouTube has better and more content than ever. Twitter also has the best and most relevant content, provided you curate your feed. All the stuff happening on academic Twitter, for instance, is hard to find elsewhere. Reddit also seems to be going down the path of irrelevancy. The content is increasingly mediocre and hivemind-ish.

Reddit always had a hive mind, it's just the hive mind no longer agrees with you so you think it's irrelevant?

Nope, frankly given how long reddit's been around and how it continues to gain in popularity I expect it will outlive everything on that list except for youtube. It's the webs default forum and there will always be a demand for a forum on the web.

Re: Instagram Is Over

#142

Post by dbtc »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #140
Animats wrote: post #86

"To scroll through Instagram today is to parse a series of sponsored posts from brands, recommended Reels from people you don’t follow, and the occasional picture from a friend that’s finally surfaced after being posted several days ago. It’s not what it used to be." That seems to be how social media services die. Too many ads, fewer users, revenue drop, more ads to boost revenue, still fewer users, irrelevance. This…

It's how everything on the internet dies. Advertising infects and ruins pretty much everything. Even normal websites are just as bad, they even have the exact same escalating ads problem. By now the web is unusable without uBlock Origin and Instagram's problem is we can't install an ad blocker on it. There should be a way to speed up this cycle to make them fail faster. These corporations are making way too much mone…

We should stop letting them have it as if it was their property.

Re: Instagram Is Over

#143

Post by matheusmoreira »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #114
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #81

On the topic of social media in decline, TikTok also appears to have peaked in content already. Following people isn't that interesting since most content creators that hit it big are One Hit Wonders. After they hit that big growth spike, they either follow the herd with the latest dance or trend, or they keep doing the same thing that made em famous with slight variations. How long can you milk the same dance routin…

You have to commend YouTube and Twitter's longevity as social networks. YouTube has better and more content than ever. Twitter also has the best and most relevant content, provided you curate your feed. All the stuff happening on academic Twitter, for instance, is hard to find elsewhere. Reddit also seems to be going down the path of irrelevancy. The content is increasingly mediocre and hivemind-ish.

> Reddit also seems to be going down the path of irrelevancy.

Reddit's irrelevance is only a matter of time. They're jacking up the advertising and banning anything that offends the advertisers.

Consider also how imageboards managed to remain relevant to this day.

Re: Instagram Is Over

#144

Post by AJ007 »

throwaway82388 wrote: post #15

I’m far from bullish on meta long-term, but reporting like this would have you believe that nobody uses Facebook, and that Instagram is soon to share its fate. Optimists that they are, tech reporters overweight growth to absurd extremes. Maybe reporting on youth trends brings out the insecurities in all of us—you’d rather not look clueless in front of your two cool friends in their early 20s than the 2 billion or so…

Does it? Back in 2021 TikTok was averaging more hours of viewing per month than Youtube (in the US.)

Re: Instagram Is Over

#145

Post by matheusmoreira »

dbtc wrote: post #142
matheusmoreira wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's how everything on the internet dies. Advertising infects and ruins pretty much everything. Even normal websites are just as bad, they even have the exact same escalating ads problem. By now the web is unusable without uBlock Origin and Instagram's problem is we can't install an ad blocker on it. There should be a way to speed up this cycle to make them fail faster. These corporations are making way too much mone…

We should stop letting them have it as if it was their property.

Yes. Advertising should be illegal. Failing that, there should be ubiquitous technology to render it completely ineffective by deleting ads in real time, destroying any and all returns on their advertising investment.

One day someone smarter than me will make some machine learning thing that deletes brands from videos in real time.

Re: Instagram Is Over

#146

Post by pmontra »

evo wrote: post #131
Animats wrote: post #86

"To scroll through Instagram today is to parse a series of sponsored posts from brands, recommended Reels from people you don’t follow, and the occasional picture from a friend that’s finally surfaced after being posted several days ago. It’s not what it used to be." That seems to be how social media services die. Too many ads, fewer users, revenue drop, more ads to boost revenue, still fewer users, irrelevance. This…

I feel like there’s a natural adoption curve to social media: 1. The growing social media platform balances the needs of two user groups: the consumer’s need for fresh content and the neophyte producer’s need for a slowly ramping trickle of validation. This is possible because the people don’t know how to produce content in the new format yet. 2. The mature social media platform has picked winners. We know who the su…

Some social media are like that, others are not. When I read “It’s that I don’t see my actual friend’s posts and they don’t see mine.” I thought that my friends do see my posts and viceversa because we use channels on WhatsApp and Telegram. If all I want is keeping in touch with friends, why should I use media like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok?

Re: Instagram Is Over

#147

Post by pixl97 »

pmontra wrote: post #146
evo wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like there’s a natural adoption curve to social media: 1. The growing social media platform balances the needs of two user groups: the consumer’s need for fresh content and the neophyte producer’s need for a slowly ramping trickle of validation. This is possible because the people don’t know how to produce content in the new format yet. 2. The mature social media platform has picked winners. We know who the su…

Some social media are like that, others are not. When I read “It’s that I don’t see my actual friend’s posts and they don’t see mine.” I thought that my friends do see my posts and viceversa because we use channels on WhatsApp and Telegram. If all I want is keeping in touch with friends, why should I use media like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok?

Because in the US almost no one uses WhatsApp and Telegram.

Re: Instagram Is Over

#148

Post by pixl97 »

dageshi wrote: post #141
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to commend YouTube and Twitter's longevity as social networks. YouTube has better and more content than ever. Twitter also has the best and most relevant content, provided you curate your feed. All the stuff happening on academic Twitter, for instance, is hard to find elsewhere. Reddit also seems to be going down the path of irrelevancy. The content is increasingly mediocre and hivemind-ish.

Reddit always had a hive mind, it's just the hive mind no longer agrees with you so you think it's irrelevant? Nope, frankly given how long reddit's been around and how it continues to gain in popularity I expect it will outlive everything on that list except for youtube. It's the webs default forum and there will always be a demand for a forum on the web.

It's not that reddits users agree or disagree with me it's that [removed by Reddit]

Re: Instagram Is Over

#149

Post by fxtentacle »

slowmovintarget wrote: post #58
chrischen wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tiktok is short addictive videos from randos. Youtube is long addictive videos. Instagram and facebook is still primarily focused on content from people you know, though they are also trying to copy some of TikTok’s randos content via the Reels feature. At the end of the day they just want to get attention by giving content, whether using friends or essentially crowdsourcing. I prefer Netflix, because I’m paying them…

This reminds me of a related article discussed earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32482523 The Three Trends: 1. Medium: text -> images -> video -> 3D graphics -> VR 2. AI: time -> rank -> recommend -> generate 3. UI: click -> scroll -> tap -> swipe -> autoplay TikTok is at the video/recommend/swipe stage.

Autoplaying VR porn generated on-demand to perfectly match each visitor's preferences.

Yeah, that sounds like it would become popular very quickly.

Re: Instagram Is Over

#150

Post by kodisha »

jsemrau wrote: post #59
coolbreezetft22 wrote: post #32

Maybe I'm ignorant of what TikTok is but it seems to be mostly about video sharing and less about "social networking" with friends and family?? I also think TikTok has serious risks going forward re Chinese government. Already a lot of grumbling from lawmakers in US about banning it as CCP growing more belligerent in recent years whereas Facebook products aren't at all influenced by it.

In my eyes, TikTok is a social entertainment app where simple user-generated content is created with the purpose to provide enjoyment. It's not focused on the needs of other users, but entirely about one's own needs. Hence, I call this new version of social Eigensocial.

I think it's safe to assume that it's purpose is to gather data.
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